The Secret Plan to Fluoridate Britain's Water

re: The Secret Plan to Fluoridate Britain's Water

nutritiousmeal — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 13:24:59 GMT

Fluoride was given to prisoners in the Russian gulags because it makes people more complacent. This is worldwide. Big corps are trying to control the human population through food, water, and drugs. They're also trying to ban supplements.
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re: The Secret Plan to Fluoridate Britain's Water

ribrob — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 20:28:12 GMT

The UK Chief Dental Officer has not replied to this (abridged):
Your letter begins with the irrelevant fact that “Dental amalgam has been used as a dental filling material since the 1800s”. Why should you mention that but fail to mention the infinitely more relevant fact that the modern standard non-gamma-2 amalgams, which emit 30-50 times as much mercury vapour, were only introduced from the 1970s onwards? And anyway, just because people were using asbestos for many decades that did not constitute evidence of safety.

More importantly, you would have me believe about the SCENIHR 2007 report that “This report has superceded all of the publications that you have cited.”

Included among those cited publications were the review of 25 studies “Effects of Amalgam Removal on Health” by Mats Hanson, 2004, and the later Wojcik et al 2006. That is 26 studies comprising nearly 6000 patients, and the results strongly indicate that “there is hardly any medical treatment that gives so positive results on so many health problems as amalgam removal.” This is damning evidence that amalgam is very harmful and has caused exactly the symptoms with which I am afflicted, and that removal is a most effective treatment.

Now turning to the SCENIHR report, its 71 pages completely fail to even mention those 26 damning studies. Indeed it does not include any review of removal studies at all.
That may go some way to explaining why your supposedly superceding report has not impressed Sweden, Norway and Denmark into halting their banning of amalgam just a few months later.

I would be most grateful if you would now bring an end to this parade of pseudoscience excuses and get on with urgently correcting the serious injury these defective policies have caused me.

re: The Secret Plan to Fluoridate Britain's Water

Mr.AK — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 02:34:38 GMT

Oh, the irony! A nation notorious for bad teeth resorting to fluoride, a toxic and ineffective substance, because they think that's why teeth in the USA are so beautiful.

re: The Secret Plan to Fluoridate Britain's Water

Phantom O Banjo — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:55:20 GMT

Somebody is under double secret probation! Determining who is the probationee or probationer is suspect.

re: The Secret Plan to Fluoridate Britain's Water

DizzyIzzy1 — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 18:41:45 GMT

2 - Contd

Also, if you're in the UK and don't want your water fluoridated, you are legally entitled to refuse to pay that part of your water bill, and one lawyer consulted by the anti-fluoride group has stated you can legally refuse to pay any of your water bill at all. This is because you're being given a contaminated product that isn't what you asked for, therefore as a consumer it's within your right to refuse to pay. You could even go so far as to charge Southern Water (or whatever other company) your bills for bottled water or Reverse Osmosis filters, as they're leaving you no choice but to use it. Apparently the government will reimburse them so there should be no argument.

There's a Facebook group called 'Fight Fluoridation in Southampton' who have all the contact addresses and emails of the PCT and Southern Water and are encouraging everyone concerned to write in and tell them you don't want it, it violates those conventions, bills and treaties, and that you will be charging them for your bottled water and refusing to pay your bills if they bring it in. Make them scared, show them they're lose their profits, put up a fight - they're starting to look worried!!

Anyone interested can also follow it on the Daily Echo's website www.dailyecho.co.uk

re: The Secret Plan to Fluoridate Britain's Water

DizzyIzzy1 — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 18:36:27 GMT

Part 1 -

At the moment the Southampton PCT (Primary Care Trust) and Southern Water are pushing forward with their plans to fluoridate the water in the city and parts of the surrounding area.

There was a poll in the daily paper (since nothing had been done elsewhere to survey people on whether they wanted it 'yes' or 'no') and it came out with 80% opposition - the same paper has had screeds of comments from angry people opposed to it because it's toxic and poisonous, lowers IQ, damages the thyroid and bones, causes cancer, and leads to dental and skeletel fluorosis. Besides being unethical mass-medication.

Thankfully, a group of residents have set up a group 'Fight Fluoridation in Southampton' and are urging the people of the city to write to their MPs, the water company, the PCT etc and giving out the addresses to write to. They've also approached lawyers about it to take it to the EU Human Rights courts if it goes ahead.

Fluoridation in the UK is ILLEGAL under:
1. The Poisons Act
2. The Codified Pharmaceuticals Directive 2001/83/EEC (as an unregistered substance for medicinal purposes; fluorosilicates haven't been registered as medicinal substances or tested for safety properly for that purpose, yet we're told the reason for fluoridation is to have an effect on dental caries - thus rendering it an unregistered medicianal substance under the act)
3. The Council of Europe's Convention on Human Rights & Biomedicine
4. The European Convention on Human Rights
5. Article 35 of the European Charter of Fundamental Rights
6. The Water Bill - the offer of indemnity against liability to water companies is illegal under this act
7. Voting on it would also violate Article 17 of the EU Convention on Human Rights as it would deny anyone not wanting that medication the right to refuse due to a majority vote

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re: The Secret Plan to Fluoridate Britain's Water

Sheila C — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:25:09 GMT

This is really weird because Health Canada recently came out saying that they want to reduce the levels of flouride in water. Surely the U.K. has the same medical information and health reports as we do.

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All Under Heaven — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:57:33 GMT

Secrecy is the enemy of freedom. And government loves to be secretive. (< this one might even be worthy of a philosophical quote...)

It really frustrates me how everytime a bad and usually dangerous idea is brought up, the critics against it seem to always be the underdog minority. Did you know there was also once a proposal in Britain to fluoridate the school's milk? It failed, due to the ensuing uproar.

Fluoride is neither needed nor necessary for dental health. And I can say that the benefits do not outweigh the risks nor is it right to subject people to involuntary medication.

re: The Secret Plan to Fluoridate Britain's Water

Aaltrude — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 20:23:03 GMT

If they want to combat the high levels of tooth decay then perhaps they should be educating the public about the damage done by sugars in their diet rather than forcing this ineffective measure on them.