A Different Take on Death From Carl Jung

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Suzanne Giraud — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:18:06 GMT

Regretably, I could not view this Carl Jung video as it returned: "We're sorry, this video is no longer available". All the same, when considering that everything manifest in the universe is made up of energy - which is modified by our beliefs, thoughts and emotions to create our individual perception of 'reality' - then it doesn't take much of a leap to realise that all 'life' is a continuum, right?

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Noel_Gomersall — Fri, 23 Feb 2007 23:47:07 GMT

Dear Josh, The American Edgar Cayce, pronounced k c, who died in 1945 was regarded by millions as God's messenger last century. If you are interested in whether we were created as souls having eternal life I would suggest you contact the Association For research and Enlightenment at Virginia Beach and research his life in the many books that have been written about him. He maintained that all the information that came through him came from a higher source. Interestingly, his higher source refused to allow Cayce to charge for his services, but that he had to rely on donations,and informed him that as he had three feeds a day and a roof over his head he did not need anything else. Doctors who examined his "readings" as they were called stated that he seemed to have the ability in his trance-like states to enter the human body and examine every cell. It didn't matter whether the patient was in America or an overseas country, as long as he had the address and time of appointment. Compelling reading. Noel

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maxie — Fri, 09 Feb 2007 00:42:18 GMT

I am a mother who lost a son almost 26 years ago. He was murdered at 17 by a boy who was around his age. Six months after his death I had an experience that I know to be truth because I am the type to analyze so as not to just believe because it makes me feel better. I won't go into too many details but I wish to share this especially with people who have lost someone they dearly love to give them hope. I saw my son's face in a mist. He was radiant and radiating a vibration of love so intense that I believe we wouldn't be able to survive in a human body if we were to live with this type of vibration. He spoke to me through my mind telling me the words that I can never forget. "There is a love that goes beyond the physical." When I received this message I noticed that their was no feeling of revenge or hatred for the boy that had cut his life short. It brought me peace and the realization that life does go on in a different form. You can analyze all you want but the bottom line is in the end you will be judged on how well you love.

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Beblest — Thu, 08 Feb 2007 20:37:19 GMT

Carl Jung:"death should be regarded as a goal and something to look forward to". How does he know that? Is this a hypothesis? If so, how does he prove it will not result in a terrifying experience? At his age could it be he is just indulging his wishful thinking? In his book "To Hell and Back", Maurice Rawlins, M.D., a cardiologist, documents the awful fear of some of his patients, with near death experience (NDE), whom he resuscitated, and brought back from a brief encounter in terrifying surroundings, hell. Other patients returned from a wonderful experience, heaven. What accounted for the difference? The latter were believers in Christ, the former were not.

In his book, "23 Minutes in Hell", Bill Wiese tells of his experience in hell. This was not a NDE, but an out of body experience (OBE), also shared by NDEers. Mr Wiese was asleep in his bed at 3 AM when the OBE started. Later he saw his body lying on the floor, through the roof of his house as he approached it. When he reentered his body the horrors of what he had seen and heard so overwhelmed him that he curled up in a fetal position screaming. This awakened his wife who ran to him, wanting to know what was happening. He screamed, "The Lord took me to hell. Pray that the Lord take away the fear from my mind". She felt relieved he was not having a heart attack. She prayed, he began to calm down and regain his composure. He asked her for a glass of water, quickly downed that and another glass and totd his wife he never wanted to feel that thirsty again. It took him a year to recover normalcy. It turns out this man was a believer in Christ , who, when he was in hell had no recollection of that fact. He was sent there as Christ told him later to know the hopelessness of being in hell and to tell people that hell is a real place. So much for Carl Jung's musings!

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Robert_Newhouse — Thu, 08 Feb 2007 15:08:13 GMT

"The human psyche lives on" is a very Biblical concept. The condition of that psyche in the afterlife is dependent on what we do in this life. There is a phrase in the Bible describing this condition, "... where the worm dieth not." It refers to the regret many will have when they look back on their lives and see they had squandered the opportunities they had in this life. The greatest being the guilt that they will take with them into the eternal dimension. They had the opportunity to have that taken away while they were alive but they rejected it. Millions throughout history have taken advantage of this opportunity to have their guilt and bitterness removed by surrendering their lives Jesus Christ. I used to meditate for 5 hours a day while doing yoga. I tried so hard to come in contact with the Father. Then one day I met Jesus. It was so simple I felt like a child. He now lives within me. I thank God that I have no regrets now, and am certain my spirit will live on in eternal bliss, free of guilt, bitterness, hatred, fear and pride. Not for what I did, but what was done for me by the One who is love.

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Storm Weaver — Thu, 08 Feb 2007 12:12:34 GMT

It is my heartfelt belief that each and every one of us has a purpose here, and that no matter how long we are here, the span of our existence is sufficient to serve that purpose. I have no fear of death, only because I know that when my time comes, it will not be "too early" or "too late"... it will be exactly the time that this body -- the shell that allows this piece of Universal Spirit to function in this reality -- will have done what it was supposed to do.

From a purely personal perspective, I feel that though we may question why someone dies, especially if that person was new-come to this life (for example, the 3 babies I lost at birth), I truly believe that whatever it was that they had to do was served, somehow, through their interconnection with this plane of existence. I know that my life changed through the power of their spirits interconnecting with mine, and that those changes have refined my vision of my own purpose... so I don't fear death for myself or for others, and believe strongly in the need to cherish the transition time, and to recognize the profound nature of the experience. I would hope that this enables me to both cherish the passage and alleviate fear in those who are walking towards transition, and to respect and cherish the sense of loss and open doors of awareness for those who remain behind and must figure out what this change is bringing about in their own lives.

Thank you, Dr. M., for sharing this!

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shiva — Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:22:31 GMT

As I am sure Jung would have agreed,... the mind is not the brain. The mind is an energy field that both surrounds and permeates the body. ... The brain is merely a 'transciever' between the mind and the body. Death is simply a transition from one realm of existence or vibratory frequency into another.

This knowledge has been very present in traditional cultures for thousands of years. .. It is perhaps near the time for modern culture to awaken to this understanding.

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CHRIS67120 — Tue, 23 Jan 2007 09:56:23 GMT

Since the Revelation of Arès (France) we know for sure that the purpose of life is to restore in us the “ image and likeness of God” and create our soul. The reason for life is to be happy.Individual happiness after death as well as general happiness which man could develop on earth depend on souls' number and advancement. Man is not born with a soul. A man forms his soul by changing his life, exercising love, justice, righteousness, in short, by penitence (= change into good)(not the religious sense), and by working to change the world, even if he does not utter God's Name. Some unbelievers are more justified than some believers and do much more for the world's future. But that man at any time can neglect and wreck the soul that he created for himself. Without a soul, whether he has never had one or whether he has wrecked it, a man, once he has died, is only a specter without ascending strength and happiness, but not really without consolation.

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mmc88121 — Tue, 23 Jan 2007 02:31:24 GMT

I agree with Jung's hypothesis, that the Psyche or Spirit, is not affected by time. "Time only is measured unto man." I believe death is a beginning of the greatest adventure yet to be had.

mmc88121

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Josh Rubin — Tue, 23 Jan 2007 01:12:36 GMT

Georgiaboy,

It is very simple, one who is "religious" is being judged by what they call GOD. Most people are in religions that are fear based. Don't do this until you are married, don't say that, don't eat this, live by my words OR ELSE YOU WILL GO TO HELL.

If you study what GOD really is, it is always present in everything. Man and women are polarized into positive and negative polarities. God, does not have a polarity, thus all knowing cannot judge. Man is their to validate and provide passion, which is positivley charged. Women are here to provide compassion and are negatively charged. Something that is polarized can judge. Something that is not polarized, is all knowing and does not have a charge, is not male or female, etc.

Death is so feared in my opinion because religions drill into your head that the things you do during life, you will be punished for when you die. I restate, this is my opinion and everyone is welcome to their own. If you think of death for yourself, it is just a part of life. If you don't focus on all the things that are put into your head, the fear is gone. People that live in the future, live in fear, whether it be death, success, happiness or money. Look out the window and you can see this all around.

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GeorgiaBoy123 — Mon, 22 Jan 2007 23:49:59 GMT

Death is very real. To some men it seems to be the end of everything for them. But, also, every man seems to know that it isn't the end. There's something telling him there's more. Most atheistic, agnostic, modern men are terrified of death. Many don't seem to show it, but they try to keep all thoughts about death out of there mind .i.e. they don't attend funerals. Every man has to face it. Is there anything after death or is death THE END?

Carl Jung seems to only believe things that he can scientifically proove. If he has no proof for life after death, then he has no reason to believe it. He puts his faith in man's reason. The Bible defines faith in Hebrews 11:1," Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." The Bible says in Romans 1: 20," For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:" Romans 8:6 and 7 says," For to be carnally(earthly reasoning) minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be." John 3:36 says," He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him." It says in 1 Corinthians 15:15-17," O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ." Everyone puts there faith in something when it comes to death. Some in a resurrected Christ. Some in themselves. Maybe there is no God to judge us after death? But here's a bigger question: what if there is?

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Josh Rubin — Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:41:24 GMT

I agree with Jung on many levels. The most interesting thing is that most people focus on the future (what has not been). This eventually leads to fear of what has not been, death. What if death was the beginning and when we were born we are actually dying? If you beleive in karmic laws, then life never ends. It is continuous and birth and death are the etheric names that we have applied to these journey's in life.

As humans, there is evolution (body to spirit) and involution (spirit to body). So when we are born, are we humans having spiritual experieces or spirits having human experiences. As Yogananda said, you have to have thousands of life times in order to be born into a human experience.

So what is real and what is not? What is visible and what is not? Death is something that we have created in my opinion. When the physical body starts to decline, what about the other body's (mental, emotional and causal). This is the time when they leave the body and the physical body does die. But do the others die, do they continue into another body, into another lifetime. One will never KNOW for sure and all we can really do is speculate. We can all have beleifs and that is what makes our own journey's special.

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Russ Bianchi — Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:33:57 GMT

Johann von Goethe, as quoted by Theory of Relativity Author and Thiest, Albert Einstein: "God May Be Subtle, But Malicious He Is Not."