''Legal'' Drugs That Are More Dangerous Than Illegal Ones

re: ''Legal'' Drugs That Are More Dangerous Than Illegal Ones

pexx421 — Sat, 07 Apr 2007 23:53:27 GMT

few comments. First of all, at one point LSD and MDMA actually were prescribed medications. At that point they were found to be extremely useful in treating ptsds and severe depression as well as such things as marital problems. In fact, in some studies a single MDMA session was found to be as effective as four months of regular therapy. It was outlawed during the war on drugs against the federal courts recommendations, despite the fact that the supreme courts found there to be little danger of abuse or addiction for either of these substances.
     Secondly, I work in a hospital....and I dont think that 40% of our patients are there due to smoking tobacco. In fact, i think more of our patients are there for alcohol.
     A point for me where I disagree with others is they debate which substances should be legal due to their relative danger index. I believe that as humans, we are given the inherent freedom to be adults and should have full choice of what we put into our bodies. It is NO governments right or privelege to protect us from ourselves, for that is a slippery slope that no one will be able to hold without eventually abusing. As an adult I should be ceded all rights to my life insofar as they do not negatively begin affecting others around me.
      A last point is....contrary to the prevailing propaganda of american society, not all drug "use" is drug "abuse" meant only to escape from problems. Many people use some natural substances or chemicals for learning and growth, as well as bonding and release of emotional baggage. Many seek spiritual enlightenment, and many of our greatest philosophers and humanists of the last 100 years were strongly under the guidance of some of these "sacrements".....people who have helped make life better for millions around the world, many spiritual leaders, noble laureattes, inventors.

re: ''Legal'' Drugs That Are More Dangerous Than Illegal Ones

Nathan210 — Sat, 07 Apr 2007 20:58:39 GMT

Whenever I read about the dangers of tobacco and smoking, it makes me glad that I am LDS. Evere since the early days of our church in the time of Joseph Smith, we have had the Word of Wisdom. The Word of Wisdom, which is found in Doctrine and Covenants section 89 of the Book of Mormon, tells us that if we do not consume tobacco, "hot drinks" meaning coffee and some teas, or "fermented wine" in other words alcohol, that we will be blessed. The majority of Mormons stopped using alcohol and tobacco in 1833 before anyone knew about how detrimental to one's health they are. We must be doing something right.

for more information about The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, commonly know as "Mormons," visit www.mormon.org or www.lds.org

re: ''Legal'' Drugs That Are More Dangerous Than Illegal Ones

Michael_Elson — Sat, 07 Apr 2007 18:43:57 GMT

More on The Tobacco Smoking Patsy:

Here is one link concerning the evils of carbon monoxide emissions from motor car exhausts:

www.greenspeed.us/electric_bicycle.htm

Don't take my word for it - take a look for yourself.

Michael Elson.

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re: ''Legal'' Drugs That Are More Dangerous Than Illegal Ones

Michael_Elson — Sat, 07 Apr 2007 18:16:19 GMT

The Tobacco Smoking Patsy

The entire world is having the wool pulled over their eyes concerning the vastly overstated so-called dangers of smoking tobacco - not to deny that smoking tobacco is dangerous to some individuals, however. It rather needs to explain just how dangerous...... But it very STRONGLY depends on the number of inhalations per cigarette a smoker takes and the number of cigarettes ACTUALLY smoked per day, plus a hell of a lot of other important factors like environment, diet, employment type, stress levels, drug and alcohol use and the rest. The volume of so-called poisons in a cigarette are individually microscopic, especially since they are inhaled through a thin tube with a diameter of about 7 millimetres, which describes an average cigarette. Contrasted against the vastly larger engine exhaust pipe diameters and the massively huge and continuous emissions coming from over half a billion of them world wide (motor vehicles alone, that is) every second of every day and night, cigarette smoke pales into insignificance. And as for the utterly ridiculous bulldust about ‘second hand’ smoke, I wont stoop to reply to that.

What about analysing to the same depth of investigation, the deadly evils of carbon monoxide poison? After all, it is the most common death-dealing substance blasted around the entire planet, from ground level to thousands of feet above sea level - everywhere you go. You just cannot escape it.

It is those emissions that are killing people. They contain a high degree of carbon monoxide, which is a deadly, invisible, odourless gas, from the exhausts of motor vehicles, lawnmowers, motor cycles, motor scooters, generators, tractors, buses, lorries and trucks, aeroplanes and microlites, locomotives, ships, power boats etc, that are powered by internal combustion engines. Governments world wide are using tobacco smoking as a scapegoat to draw attention away from those deadly carbon monoxide fumes, due to the economic value attached to the vehicles in question. After all, what would we do without them? What? No cars, trains, aircraft, buses, trucks and lorries, motor cycles, ships............ ??

So, relax and have a cigarette whilst you worry about the above - it’ll calm your nerves a bit. If you don’t believe what I’ve written, look it up either in your encyclopaedia or the Internet. Then light up another fag whilst you pour yourself a nice cold beer. What could be nicer than a cold beer and a cigarette?

Michael Elson.

re: ''Legal'' Drugs That Are More Dangerous Than Illegal Ones

Christian Ryan D.O. — Sat, 07 Apr 2007 13:19:39 GMT

I am a DO or doctor of Osteopathy and I find it totally out of line with the truth according to what I see n my Pratice in Texas and the ER rooms concerning Methadone or trade name Dolophine. It comes no where close to the other dangerous drugs as not that much is available compared to Herion and the other ones. I find more trouble with Oxycontin and it isnt on the list. I will concedethat it is potent and can kill in small dosages, but i think its ranking is where people look down on its use in addicts and when one person does die such as high profile cases like Anna N Smith and her son,people blow it out of context. When used correctly it is one of the most beneficial drugs in Pain Mgt. C Ryan

re: ''Legal'' Drugs That Are More Dangerous Than Illegal Ones

albjr — Sat, 07 Apr 2007 04:25:39 GMT

As a teen, I used cocain & anphetamines on occasion. I out-grew my need for these recreational stimulants and have been an electrical engineer for 30 years. My little brother 'only smoked pot'. He is now a 45 year old homeless man in Tacoma who STILL 'only smokes pot'. I've got 2 grown sons. My oldest got into the recreational stimulants,as I did.He out-grew them and is currently a mechanical engineer working for Lexus.My younger son 'only smoked pot'. He has been frying chicken wings at a local fast food joint for the past 10 years and probably will be for life, 'only smoking pot' all the while. You folks with your 'it's only pot' mantra need to wake up, and hustle on down to Taco Bell. Your shift is about to start.

re: "Legal" Drugs That Are More Dangerous Than Illegal Ones

Jon_Roberts — Mon, 26 Mar 2007 22:50:00 GMT

Your article lists "street methadone" as one of the top four most dangerous drugs. I find this doubtful. What it should probably be is methamphetimine, or crystal meth, which is a growing problem in America today. I've seen more lives destroyed by this one drug than all other drugs combined. It is evil in powder form.

When I read that marijuana has been classfied as dangerous, I discount that opinion. Nothing could be further from the truth. Other than a little soot in the lungs, there is nothing dangerous about it. It makes you lazy. That's about it.

re: "Legal" Drugs That Are More Dangerous Than Illegal Ones

jeremyroos — Mon, 26 Mar 2007 00:24:50 GMT

This article sheds the light on difference between legal and illegal recreational drugs. We know that legal drugs kill more people per year that all illegal drugs combined.

I see cannabis finished 2 spots behind cigarettes. Finally the truth is coming out, Cannabis is actually safer that cigarettes and far safer than alcohol. This was an excellent article that's on the right path. Now I'm not saying that prohibition should be reinforced with alcohol and cigarettes; we know that it doesn't work! The real course of action is to end the prohibition of recreational drugs, and at the bare minimum end the prohibition of cannabis. Check out L.E.A.P Law Enforcement Against Prohibition http://www.leap.cc/

Marijuana is the safest of all drugs, actually it’s not even a “drug” it is an Herb! The medical establishment would love to keep it illegal because it would cut into their profits. For the last century the government would have you believe there is no medical benefit of cannabis and this is one of the reasons its illegal. Today we see drug companies trying to extract compounds out of it for medical use.

Besides the millions of people getting arrested and jailed for this natural plant, the real injustice is the poor sick people that need this medicine because nothing else works like it.

Too bad the government, with their propaganda, has created such a stigma for one of the most beneficial plants on earth. So much so that Mercola doesn't’t even talk about it. Probably because so many people are brainwashed and think it is so evil - that he doesn’t want to tarnish his name. Have no fear over half the population is cool with. No one can argue that fact that no one has ever died from cannabis.

I can tell you that I would rather smoke cannabis than drink alcohol any day. Cannabis is so much safer and healthier.

re: "Legal" Drugs That Are More Dangerous Than Illegal Ones

PPARGammaGirl — Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:16:49 GMT

Alcohol and illegal drugs work by stimulating receptors in the brain called GABA receptors. Big Pharma has muscled in on this by creating their own “legal” GABA receptor agonists. Initially developed for the treatment of epilepsy, only about 2% of people are taking them for this reason. Most use is “off label” and promoted to doctors as “effective in the treatment of anxiety, depression, chronic pain” and so on by the “legal” pushers – the detailers.

The heroin dealer loitering on the corner of the street engenders outrage in decent people, and yet these same decent people quite happily trot down to their doctors to receive their “legal” fix, ones that kill far more than street drugs, for their various dis-eases. This hypocrisy, like the proverbial elephant in the living room, is unseen.

By discussing these issues with anyone who will listen, we will encourage people to see what is really going on and take more responsibility for their health.

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mmc88121 — Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:14:26 GMT

It is interesting to note that except for Exctasy and LSD most of these drugs were or are legal prescription medications at one time in the history of Medicine. Heroin is still used in Brompton's cocktail in the UK, Cocaine was used in eye surgeries, Canabis was used for upset stomachs, anphetimines were used as diet drugs. And at one time the AMA used to prescibe cigarette smoking, to help calm nerves. I am not sure what the other drugs were.

mmc88121

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Josh Rubin — Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:12:54 GMT

I am not denyinig the fact that these drugs are addictive, but over the years I personally feel that drugs are used (same thing as day dreaming, overeating, shopping, etc) to shield self from self. This is America's way of smoking screening and ignoring their own bullsh*t and not stepping up to the plate.

At the same time through testing I have found most addicts to have low levels of certain hormones and neurotransmitters. Using helps to supplement these low levels. I have found hormonal and amino acid therapy and nutrition to work wonders for getting people off these drugs!