The Deception Behind "Organic" Milk

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drold — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 06:28:34 GMT

Wonder if any of you writing her are paying attention to the articles Dr. Mercola is writing? Milk is great for health. Milk is not at all great for health. Milk is ok for health and should only be used occasionally. All of the above are true. Its called Metabolic Typing. We are all different. There is no such thing as one size fits all. Get off your limited view points. If its good for the Hunzas its what everyone should eat? No, were not all Hunzas. Wow its really not a complex concept people.

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NadineH — Fri, 08 Jun 2007 21:36:19 GMT

New to the site and just trying to think ahead to when my baby is supposed to start drinking cows milk. What can I give him instead? I also just learned that soymilk was a no-no (I feel like I have been under a rock) what can I put in my coffee, cereal & smoothies now?
Thanks ;)

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primate — Mon, 23 Apr 2007 16:24:05 GMT

One the main problems with cow milk as a human food is the protein component, casein.   Casein is used in industry as a foundational ingredient in adhesives and glues, and as a binder in plastics and other protective coatings. Undigested, or incompletely digested casein causes many problems in the body, besides the obvious problem of toxicity, produed in the digestive track, by the putrefication of undigested proteins.
   Humans are not well equipped to digest casein.   Renin is the primary enzyme that breaks down casien.   Most people begin to lose their capacity to secrete renin shortly after weaning, and continue to lose that capacity throughout life. Some physiology textbooks report that as high as 2/3's of caucasian adults have lost their ability to secrete renin to the degree nessecary to digest casien in cows milk.
(Human milk is a different story as the protein component in human milk is quite different from that in cows milk).
Without complete digestion of of casein, the glutimine and calcium buffers are not released and thus an acid condition in the blood remains, thus potentialy giving rise to osteoporosis.
Casein tends to be a binder in the human digestive track and can cause constipation, sometimes severe. I have known several people, including myself, that overcame chronic constipation by simply abstaining from dairy products. I drank a lot of milk as a child and suffered from severe constipation, and a serious form of cystic acne. Nobody ever suspected, including our doctors, that this "perfect" food could cause these problems. Later in my life I drank raw, organic milk for two years straight and had all the same problems still.  When I gave up milk entirely, I got well.

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countrygirl4 — Fri, 20 Apr 2007 17:18:38 GMT

TriciaB, cats will eat a lot of things, as will dogs, pigs, and other animals in the scavenger category. I'm not going to start eating roadkill or a bug because a cat might munch on it! I think the important information to seek out is how milk affects the human body. Often and for many reasons, it is not good.

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meowsteph — Fri, 20 Apr 2007 15:51:25 GMT

TYPICAL!!!!!!! NOT SURPRIZED ONE BIT.

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Jenine Junker — Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:16:15 GMT

What if raw milk products are not available in the area that you live?
I have checked the sources out & there are very few sources for raw milk products in our local area.

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oniononion — Fri, 20 Apr 2007 05:00:14 GMT

Wether you agree on drinking milk or not, you can live without it. I'm allergic to milk, raw or not, am a much happier without it!

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Nathan210 — Fri, 20 Apr 2007 00:44:42 GMT

Milk is not necessary in the human diet! almost all of the things that milk goes good with are grains and sugars, of which neither is healthy. Plain milk is discusting, and so I drink virtually no milk at all, not even raw. If you want to drink milk, drink raw; if you can't find raw, don't drink any at all. I mentally cringe whenever I see those "got milk" ads.

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samurai — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 21:11:51 GMT

OK. If "Horizon" is bad, what brand of organic milk is recommended??? I am not going to be giving up my lattes.
Please Advise.
Thanks

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vikingbeerlady — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 19:29:33 GMT

I have never tasted better milk than that which comes straight from the cow (or the conscientious farmer's bulk tank). I have been very fortunate to find farmers who understand it's importance and health benefits and are willing to take the risk of losing their dairy licenses to make it available (imagine that!) - it has been key in bringing my own health out of the dumpster, and provided unimagined immunity for my children, once weaned. All of that being said, our politicians have found a new way to protect us from ourselves and to keep it out of our hands and diets in the future - YOU NEED TO ACT NOW TO KEEP IT!!! There is a new animal registry program called N.A.I.S (National Animal Identification System). It IS a federal law, that is currently in it's "volunteer" registration phase in most states (individual states can decide to embrace it or not). ALL farm animals (incl. bunnies, chickens, ducks etc.) are now subject to federal regulation whenever used or sold for food production, or if they leave a farm property for ANY reason. Fines will be imposed for those who don't comply (there is a registration fee, per animal, that adds up in a hurry), and tax databases are being mined to provide livestock history for farms and farmettes. Large, a.k.a. "factory" flocks and herds are only required to register as a single group number (it is assumed that they will always have exemplary records, I guess...?). Can you see where this could be going? I encourage you to read up on this in "Countryside & Small Stock Journal", a magazine by and for modern homesteaders - the very people who could be selling you your health-bringing raw milk. They watched it closely as the idea developed, begged for people to fight it through their elected officials, but ultimately didn't have enough numbers to keep it from becoming a reality. It is impossible to overstate how deeply this is going to affect our access to privately-raised and sold meat-and-dairy source foods in the future.

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countrygirl4 — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 18:36:07 GMT

CathyVM! Think this through a little more! "If we follow the weaning argument to a logical conclusion: because we don't eat our own babies, then we shouldn't eat eggs either!!" Um, Cathy, the flaw with that is that we (animals and humans) start out drinking mother's milk as nature intends...but we (animals and humans) don't start out eating our babies! For that argument to work, we would all have to have started out eating our babies and then stopped when we passed beyond a point of growth in our lives. Just had to point out that was silly. :-)

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Darryl008 — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 17:33:24 GMT

Thanks Dellherr, since you gave up milk , Where do you get your Vit. D from also I have been eating alot healthier and prefer whole foods I have started a diet that consists of veg. and fruits. next to give up,but so hard to do is meat. Take care and thanks for the advice.

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Darryl008 — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 17:32:37 GMT

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Darryl008 — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:55:29 GMT

After reading all the comments, this makes me want to elimate milk from my diet. Would this be wise to do? Is thier another substitute?
I read articles that soymilk is not good either, Someone please help. New to the site, and still learning Please Help Thanks D.

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Sojourner46 — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 13:12:09 GMT

The same deception is with meat too:

Cruising through my local Sam's Club, I came upon this product, American Chef's Selection Angus Beef Patties. (you can see a pic of it on the main page of bricktown.biz) Wow! Angus beef! I have eaten other Angus beef patties before and they were good. This looked like a winner and the price of just under two bucks a pound was more expensive than the regular beef patties, however Angus beef is delicious.

Well, little did I know.

The box appears to intentionally mislead the buyer. You are given the impression, by looking at the box, that these patties are made of 100% beef

and not made merely "WITH" beef.

Well, the trick worked on me and it wasn't until I got home and cooked some of these patties later that evening and got half-way through eating one that I realized that something just wasn't right.

I went and looked the box over carefully.

At the back of the box at the bottom, written in black ink on a dark reddish background is the revealed ingredients:

ingredients

Yes, Bread crumbs, water, yeast, corn syrup, hydrogenated oils, and lots of chemicals.......soy........on an on. A LONG list of ingredients

I got sick that night.

I wrote a letter to Sam's Club about it and haven't heard thing back.

Cargill Meat Solutions, who packed it 'exclusively for Sam's Club" was next and they actually wrote me back and offered to pay the cost of the meat. My wife noticed that they didn't include the tax and so I emailed them back and they said they would include the cost of the tax.

I think more of us need to stand up to these slick advertisers. They deceive intentionaly. This incident was way overboard for me.

It makes you wonder what Wall-mart is doint in other areas as well. I'm thinking of boycotting Wal-mart altogether.

SOj