Acupuncture Helps Back Pain Even if Skeptical

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sainttammany — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 21:20:31 GMT

In 1981 I was told by a surgon that without fuseing my complete lumbar spine, I would be in a wheelchair in 6 months. I found a real TMC, Panda Lee (now deceased) He was a true shaman, a Chinese Master. After the first 2 hour treatment, after having been carried in for this chronic pain of over 30 years, My symptoms were completely gone. I got treatment for a couple of more years, and the symptoms have never returned. I am now almost 70 and ride a bike every day, 30 to 50 miles and as much as 100. It should be the first choice.

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shiva — Sat, 21 Apr 2007 17:40:47 GMT

I have been trained in and worked as a practitioner of Zen Shiatsu for a number of years. I also recieved training in Traditional Chinese Medicine. My partner is completing her training in "classical" acupuncture. ... I have had many years of experience in working with the principals of Chinese medicine both through working directly with the meridians and through working with Chinese Herbology. I can say from experience that Chinese medicine is one of the most misunderstood forms of healing here in western culture.

There have been numerous cases in my own experience where I was able to alleviate a medical problem in a matter of minutes or hours,.. where if that same person had chosen to take the route of treatment via western medicine, .. not only would the problem have taken significantly longer to treat,.. the problem would have emerged again down the road and in a worse form than originally existed. The reason for this is because the form of treatment offered by western medicine would have literally suppressed the cause of the problem deeper into the body-mind,.. simply because the treatment is designed only to alleviate the symptoms.

My experience has shown me that TCM (Traditional Chinese Medicine), is only as good as the practitioner who is applying it. So too,.. there is "TCM" ,... and there is "classical TCM". ... The latter, in my opinion is far superior to the former, as the latter applies a deeper and richer understanding of the "life force" or "Chi" and how to work with it,.. on a deeper level than the more common form of acupuncture and TCM presently found in the world.

Most people do not know that "classical TCM" is a powerful healing tool to utilise on all levels of ones being. This includes the physical, emotional, mental and spiritual levels. .. But here again,.. it must be stated that the treatment is only as good as the practitioner.

On the subject of chiropractic. .... Personally I have experienced a good deal of this form of healing work from a number of different practitioners over the years. In my opinion the most superior form of chiropractic that exists in the world today is "Network Care". ... In my opinion, Network is a significantly more evolved form of chiropractic because of the fact that it works to "allow" the nervous system to "clear" aberations from the body-mind that are the root cause of structural subluxations. .. Rather than simply repeatedly pushing bones back into their proper alignment,.... Network allows the body's own innate intelligence to clear and detox the original trauma out of the nervous system,.. through it's own natural detoxing process.

This form of treatment does not involve forceful manipulations of the spine and body,.. but rather is amazingly gentle and non-intrusive light touches to the body. I would recommend Network Care as part of a healing regimen for most any form of medical condition one might be dealing with.

http://www.associationfornetworkcare.com/

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kims den — Sat, 21 Apr 2007 16:23:50 GMT

Could someone help me to understand- My husband has struggled with back pain for years. I believe much of this has to do with stress. Does anyone have a opinion about the connection between back pain and stress?

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Celine Macken — Sat, 21 Apr 2007 16:14:21 GMT

I have used acupuncture and more frequently dry needling - which has been my saving grace . I have been a triathlete for 20 years and in 2001 developed major sciatic nerve problems and also had atrophy of the muscles on one leg, to add to my herniated disc. Dry needling is the only therapy I have found relieves me for weeks of back and sciatic nerve pain and has allowed me continue as an active triathlete, training up to 12 hours a week. I also combine this with a weekly massage and daily core work. But must repeat the dry needling is invaluable to my on going wellbeing. It may not be pleasant when administered, but I am a new person on completion - what a joy and pleasure to be pain free -

Celine

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Greg_australia — Sat, 21 Apr 2007 14:53:43 GMT

Acupuncture as with all other natural medicine modalities do treat the whole body and have so for thousands of years. As with any practitioner, there are good ones and then there are brilliant ones.

The fundamental philosophy of all natural Medicine is to Do no harm, treat the cause not the symptom & teach the client to care for themselves. To get a real insight into how broad the treatments are, head to a traditional Chinese acupuncturist as their skills have been handed down for centuries and there is some treatments that just aren't taught to western practitioners.

There is a group of practitioners that also have great results with skin conditions through acupuncture.

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gdore — Sat, 21 Apr 2007 11:29:35 GMT

I've had trigeminal neuralgia for 35 years. A year ago this past November I discovered accupuncture and am now free of heavy medications and narcotics for the pain. During these 35 years, I had to be taken to the emergency room many times. I now go every two months for maintenance. Accupuncture literally saved my life since I had no life having to stay in bed knocked out on narcotics two or more days a week. I urge anyone with health problems to check with an accupuncturist. I am proof that it works.

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Conjeanneal — Wed, 11 Apr 2007 03:11:20 GMT

I have come to the conclusion that one of the major causes of back pain and all its related consequences, has to do with a very simple answer....muscle spasm! This premise has been put forth by one Thomas Griner in quite an interesting book called "What's Really Wrong With You?: A Revolutionary Look at How Muscles Affect Your Health", available on Amazon.

His book makes a whole lot of sense; he feels quite strongly that a muscle in spasm will put pressure on and tighten around the bones they surround, causing a wealth of problems.

The trick is to bring the muscles OUT of spasm and he claims that much of the focus today is on too harsh treatments with chiropractic, heavy duty massage, etc., which in turn puts more stress on the already stressed muscle(s).

Although acupuncture, chiropractic, and other modalities have a place, I highly recommend this book for a different take on and a possible better reason for explaining the true cause - in my opinion - of back pain.

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Debrah — Fri, 06 Apr 2007 03:39:03 GMT

Check out aobta.org to find Asian Bodywork Therapists in your area--the American organization for all bodywork based on Chinese/Asian medicine--5 different kinds of Shiatsu, Tuina(traditional Chinese massage), acupressure and Jin Shin Do® Bodymind Acupressure (which I practice, along with Shiatsu and massage )or jinshindo.org for specifically Jin Shin Do. NCCAOM.org to find certified ABT, Acupunturists, herbalists. I have had chronic pain/illness since childhood and it has been a holistic path--not just one thing-that has helped me to become healthy and mostly pain free--osteopathic/chiropractic, cranial-sacral, massage, Shiatsu, yoga, Qigong, diet, herbs, meditation, breathwork, acupuncture--but Jin Shin Do helped more than anything as it works on body/mind/spirit--it got to the deep emotional issues and the energetic imbalances and the tight muscles. In my experience, bodywork is so much more effective for pain and tension related problems, acupuncture is more effective for internal organ problems. I also consider it important to empower my clients with teaching them simple techniques such as self-acupressure to do at home--how reassuring to know that you can help yourself and not need drugs! I am curious, what is CHEK, which 2 people mentioned?

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Russ Bianchi — Thu, 05 Apr 2007 15:45:24 GMT

What was the Iron Maiden's victims result? They got the point.

As much as I have personally seen real and positive results with acupuncture, I really hate needles.

I'll 'stick' with acupressure, regular low impact exercise, proper diet, EFT, metabolic typing, and blogging on mercola.com thank you.

;-)

Uncle Russ

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Dr. David Spitz — Thu, 05 Apr 2007 12:14:23 GMT

What a scientific breakthrough.

Yes, arsenic kills even if you don't believe!

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AboutBodywork — Thu, 05 Apr 2007 04:12:12 GMT

As a massage therapist, I'm a big fan of eastern Methods of healing.

Never having acupuncture I can't vouch for it, but I've seen Shiatsu and Acupressure completely reverse un-healable(by Dr.s Testimony) Degenerative Disk disease.

The body has an amazing capacity to heal itself if we'll just help it along the process, by opening ourself to the use of Energetic Forms of Bodywork.

I must admit as a Mormon and Christian it was hard to take, I thought it was going against my faith to believe in alternative healing, but I can gladly say that Bodywork is nothing to be ashamed of, God gave us the power to heal each other, if we open ourselves to the opportunity.

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Josh Rubin — Thu, 05 Apr 2007 01:09:09 GMT

As a Lic/Reg therapist, CHEK Practitioner Level 4 and a Masters Student of TCM, I can tell you that it all works. Everyone is on a different journey and requires different peices to THEIR healing puzzle. The most interesting thing that I have learned and appreciate is this: It is a 2000+ yr old medicine. The chinese view of the human body is 12 organs, 4 types of fluids (qi, blood, jing, ye) and extra-ordinary organs (brain, bone, bone marrow, uterus, GB).

As a western society, we always try to figure out why things work, we compare them to our medicine and so forth. I can tell you first hand that all these researchers are trying to find out why TCM works and they will never figure it out. They might from a western perspective, but they don't understand energy and that is what TCM is. As well, you cannot correlate any aspect of the human body and disease with TCM. It just does not line up. They believe that internal, external pathologies, yin, yang, deficiency, excess rule how someone gets sick and is treated. Treatment is all about chinese patterns.

As I do not fully "beleive" yet that TCM can realign a spondylolisthesis and so forth. But, TCM is a great peice to the healing puzzle for pain relief and a wide variety of other diseases.

We view pain in the LB as muscles, bones, etc. But TCM looks at is a KD issue, extreme isssues with fear, a UB issue and so forth.

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mmc88121 — Thu, 05 Apr 2007 00:01:17 GMT

Having had accupuncture a few times I found it very helpful. But the entire body is interrelated. What is happening in one area of your life or your body definetly affects the other areas. You have to treat the whole person not just the symptoms.

Mary

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Aram Ovsepian — Wed, 04 Apr 2007 23:05:16 GMT

I generally recommend postural and biomechanical assessment by C.H.E.K practitioner, followed by custom exercise program to correct muscular imbalances along with acupuncture and chiropractor. That is more of a holistic approach.

Acupuncture is most definitely a valid treatment for pain relieve but not always deals with the root of the problem.Chiropractic treatments are great for structural problems but exercise program in necessary to hold adjustments in place.

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Michigan Mom — Wed, 04 Apr 2007 22:08:37 GMT

Interesting...but I think I would go to a chiropractior or massage therapist for a sore back.