Almond ''Pasteurization'' May be Worse Than Previously Thought

re: Almond ''Pasteurization'' May be Worse Than Previously Thought

HealthfullLee4U — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 01:28:37 GMT

Here is the response to my recent request for information regarding my ability to obtain raw, untreated , almonds from a california grower, directly, Please read the following real response.. It is not the script of some sci fi, or horror movie.:

Thank you for your inquiry regarding un-pasteurized Almonds.

Due to recent police enforcement action by the Almond Board of California
(which now considers itself and its mission to be that of a police
enforcement agency on behalf of private interests) we are no longer able to
make any representation to you, our dear customer, about the Almonds that we
sell. We are silenced about this topic under threat of law by that agency.
We have recently had to endure visits to our ranch by the "Almond Police"
and listen to brazen statements and outright threats, i.e. "We would hate
to have to make an example out of you"
Therefore we are unable to answer your question. We are sorry for any
inconvenience that this may cause you. This is your government busy doing
the dirty work for large corporations while hiding under the color of law.
Large Political Action Committees and corporate Mega Handlers are in the
process of buying their way through the Civil Servants, Politicos and
Agencies. Their goal has nothing to do with food safety, it has everything
to do with profits. It is up to you, as a concerned citizen, to either allow
this to happen, or take the necessary steps yourself to write letters to
your representatives and congressmen, and further to support the coalition
that intends to file suit in Federal Court to stop this outrageous activity.
If you desire to continue to purchase raw food products in the traditional
free markets of the United States of America I strongly suggest that you
support the growing movement to file suit in Federal Dist

re: Almond ''Pasteurization'' May be Worse Than Previously Thought

HealthfullLee4U — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 01:20:58 GMT

The party line is that treating an almond to kill biological life, which ends up killing the almond does NOT change the almond in any significant way. It still looks, smells and tastes like an almond.

I say that every man woman and child in this country boycott almonds grown by all of the companies that have members on the almond board. This boycott should be in effect until one of the CEO's from these companies has one of his family members killed by steam, poisonous gas, radiation, ( their choice) and then takes the body home, props it up on a chair, and spends the next week pretending that the family member is virtually the same person, as the body looks, feels, and for a short time will smell, like it did, before it was treated.

Truthfully though, a boycott is needed here... flyers should be handed out in front of supermarkets... letters should be written to stores and supermarkets that carry almonds, saying that the stores will be boycotted until they stop buying almonds from the companies in question. A collection should be taken up around the nation and abroad to tide the growers that are trying to do the right thing over, as (well as any company that sells products made with living nuts).. and a general boycott of ALL almonds by everyone in the world who wants to nip this tyranny in the bud is instituted, until the ABC complys with our requests to restore the laws to their former status. They should be given the warning that if they try to strong arm the organic raw growers again, in any way... they will be boycotted again.

I am going to paste a response to a request I made today to a California grower for disclosure as to whether the organic raw almonds that he has online for sale in 10lb amounts, could be guaranteed to not have been treated in any way. The response is too long to paste here.. but I will open up another thread... It is a real eye opener

re: Almond ''Pasteurization'' May be Worse Than Previously Thought

moo_203 — Mon, 06 Aug 2007 23:43:30 GMT

THERES STILL TIME TO SIGN THE PETITION THAT IS CURRENTLY ON-LINE! its like VOTING, if you don't then you can't complain.

re: Almond ''Pasteurization'' May be Worse Than Previously Thought

Bee — Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:43:20 GMT

Not too long ago, I bought a bag of almonds at the grocery store. Imagine my horror when, as I was putting them into the storage jar, I smelled acetone! So I put them in a bowl and waited for whatever it was to evaporate. After a couple days, it still hadn't disappeared and when I tasted one just to see if it was my imagination, it tasted aceton-y. So, thinking that I was about to do mankind a great favor by calling the store's attention to a shipment of contaminated almonds, I took them back. After telling my story to the girls at the customer service desk, they tasted them and yummed them right down. They couldn't taste it! And it was very pronounced. So much of our food is fumigated or treated with one thing or another that we can no longer taste the impurities and industry just sneaks more and more of this stuff into our food. If I hadn't been cleaning up my diet for the past few years, I might not have tasted it either. So who can you trust when it comes to your health and welfare besides yourself?

re: Almond ''Pasteurization'' May be Worse Than Previously Thought

moo_203 — Wed, 06 Jun 2007 02:50:47 GMT

i saw a news article on tv telling people to be careful on sandy beaches as E-coli has been found in the sand..i wonder if the FDA will demand they pasteurize the beaches!

re: Almond ''Pasteurization'' May be Worse Than Previously Thought

cragoe — Wed, 06 Jun 2007 01:15:31 GMT

The REAL REASON all almonds will be sterilized:

It's simple: more profit for large corporations

If you think that this is being done for safety reasons, you must be kidding. Only 3 people in the last 6 years got sick from salmonella on almonds. Each time there was product recall from that manufacturer. Each time the manufacturer cleaned up his act and went back into production. A grand total of 3 people made sick in 6 years does not justify spending millions of dollars in the immediate future and huge ongoing costs in perptuity.

The simple solution is make the manufacturers run clean plants by fining them if they don't. Of make them pay the medical costs of people made sick by their products. But of couse the simple solution is not profitable. I think the really big manufacturers who would rather not clean up, just sterilize the filth. It's probably cheaper for them, as long as everybody else has to bear the same cost. Which is where the federal government comes in to help the big corporations by requiring all manufacturers to do it, even the ones who've never had had a problem.

As far as I can tell there was no public demand for this sterilization, none at all. To my knowledge there were no independent public health institutions calling for this. This was decided by the almond manufacturers and 2 federal agencies all on their own - under the radar. And these people decided it was perfectly OK to decieve the public by keeping the "raw" label when almonds are clearly not "raw" anymore. So they are into deceit. Let's see what else might look suspicious.

2 years ago the industry developed the sterilzation processes. One year ago they decided to make it mandatory. What are the financial connections between the big almond manufacturers and the companies making the sterilization equipment? I wonder if there is some connection. Co

re: Almond ''Pasteurization'' May be Worse Than Previously Thought

Cynthiak23 — Mon, 28 May 2007 13:38:08 GMT

"The bottom line is that if any process kills bacteria, it has the potential to cause problems in humans or significantly change the quality of the food. No, Mr. Waycott, I don't buy your flimsy reassurances, but I do appreciate your warning of this previously unknown way that you can damage our food supply."

One important issue, since this chemical kills bad bacteria, then it must also kill the "good" bacteria as well. I would assume that the chemical residues would still exist on the almonds.

re: Almond ''Pasteurization'' May be Worse Than Previously Thought

Cynthiak23 — Mon, 28 May 2007 13:36:18 GMT

I would like to know just how we can stop legislations like this from happening in the first place. I seems, all to often, they sneek stuff in without us knowing.

re: Almond ''Pasteurization'' May be Worse Than Previously Thought

Jim Sawyer — Wed, 23 May 2007 15:53:00 GMT

It seems to me that Dr. Hulda Clark has the answer, not irradiation, not chemicals...a slight electrical charge that kills bacteria, viruses and parasites, I have constructed one of her electrical Zappers and am totally amazed at the results.
Jim

re: Almond ''Pasteurization'' May be Worse Than Previously Thought

Bridestein — Wed, 23 May 2007 15:07:26 GMT

Hey you guys, I think we're wasting our time sending letters and e-mails to the Almond Board of California. They are a soul-less entity.
BUT, if we sent letters and e-mails to the growers themselves to let them know there will be a boycott, they might have a bit more clout with the board. Anyone know where to find a list of growers?

re: Almond ''Pasteurization'' May be Worse Than Previously Thought

AngelaLTaylor — Tue, 22 May 2007 00:59:10 GMT

Upon further research, reading the pdf found on the California Almond Board website
http://www.almondboard.com/files/Rule.pdf
an excerpt:
"To date, FDA has issued letters of determination for propylene oxide
(PPO), oil roasting, blanching, and for a moist heat process... While the TERP will not ‘‘recommend’’ or ‘‘approve’’ technologies, its review will ensure that technologies utilized by the industry have been evaluated against specific science-based criteria demonstrating the technology’s ability to deliver a lethal treatment for Salmonella in almonds."

re: Almond ''Pasteurization'' May be Worse Than Previously Thought

AngelaLTaylor — Tue, 22 May 2007 00:50:01 GMT

I wrote to the California Almond Board using their website
http://www.almondboard.com/utilities/FORMContactUs.cfm
and here is their reply May 21, 2007:

"You have been misinformed by Dr. Mercola twice.

Almonds will not be irradiated.

Our certified organic growers and handlers will not be using propylene oxide. They have developed new gentle treatments with short bursts of steam to the surface of the almond. Nutritional integrity is intact. Handler trials show sprouting of almonds treated this way."

So everyone, I don't know how to verify this issue one way or the other.

re: Almond ''Pasteurization'' May be Worse Than Previously Thought

Lisa-Jean — Mon, 21 May 2007 23:08:52 GMT

I was very interested in the information in this article UNTIL I saw that the good Doctor was using Wikipedia to further his information to us--
DOC! NO! Wikipedia is NOT considered an acceptable research source, mainly because the information can be "modified" at any time and by anybody... You'd do better to go to a legitimate source for your information, you do the cause ill when you don't provide decent, qualified research, and unforutnately make it so much easier for people to write you off as a quack.

re: Almond ''Pasteurization'' May be Worse Than Previously Thought

Ess Ess — Sat, 19 May 2007 20:47:04 GMT

It is almost as if there is a concerted effort going on with the huge corporate entities and institutions, to wipe out all biological life on Earth!

A very good "organic foods, etc., overseer site, is http://www.organicconsumersassociation.org. They currently have an article addressing the almond controversy, and am sure they will keep tracking the developments. They have petition signing on many issues, so they may do the same soon with this almond issue.

re: Almond ''Pasteurization'' May be Worse Than Previously Thought

moo_203 — Fri, 18 May 2007 22:56:01 GMT

there is an on-line petition to sign against this process if you have'nt done so yet maybe you can sign it. i'm not sure what the web site is. it was on the original almond post.