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HealthfullLee4U — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 10:37:47 GMT

Regarding the use of Cow's milk, vs. Goat milk.
For anyone who is high estrogen - low testosterone ( especially post menopausal women and even men for that fact ), you may want to consider the fact that cow's milk has naturally occuring hormones in it that are there to grow a new born calf into a hugh cow as quickly as possible. Whereas a goat has naturally occuring hormones in it's milk to grow a new born goat into an adult size goat. If you are low testosterone, you can imagine that most of the hormone directed calories consumed will go towards building fat, rather than muscle. Do you want to end up weighing what a cow does? I wonder if that is where the expression "she looks like a fat cow " came from.
I might be wrong, but i am beginning to think that we should not really be eating anything from animals larger than we are if we tend to carry too much weight. . I know that body builders welcome the extra poundage, in the form of testosterone built muscle, that cow's milk gives them.. but take a look at the records and see just how many of these body God's suffer from heart attacks at a young age. I know one, who i took care of in the cardiac care unit of a hospital in New York. He didn't look near as powerful, lying in that bed, than he did on the cover of the magazine he was in a month before.
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In addition, would someone like to comment on the fact, that i think I heard that goat's milk has a smaller molecule that is more like mother's milk, than cow's milk is>?

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alystra — Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:53:55 GMT

Hello all!
This is my first ever comment on mercola.com, those i've been a subscriber for a long time.
It is very unfortunated what is happening in the US regarding the interdiction of selling raw milk in some of the states.
I must say that I am a fortunated person to live in a country (Romania) that still holds to it's traditional farming practices and allows the selling of any kind of milk. We buy weekly suplies of fresh cow's milk, goat milk and sheep's milk, as well as cream, cheese and fresh farm eggs. I don't know what would i do if i wouldn't be able to buy this suply as it represents the main source of my diet along fresh vegetables, fruits and nuts.

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Wendyann — Sat, 09 Jun 2007 16:22:37 GMT

Hi ,This is my first post but I have been reading Dr. Mercola's site for some time. My question is ,What is the difference between raw goats milk and raw cows milk? I was always told for years that goats milk was far better than cows milk. Please end the confusion for me.

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george8211 — Thu, 07 Jun 2007 22:27:11 GMT

why do we drink milk ? Are there any other adult animals on the planet that do ??

If people really want fresh organic, they should crawl underneith a cow and start sucking.

Milk just doesn't seem like one of the natural foods that we were meant to drink from other animals.

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curious7 — Thu, 07 Jun 2007 18:57:18 GMT

Dairy products are a major cause of breast, and ovarian cancer, according to the British Health Ministry studies. Also note if you are suffering from arthritis, drop all dairy products from your diet, and your symptons will begin to subside.

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snoopy65 — Thu, 07 Jun 2007 16:14:29 GMT

Hi, I have just been wondering about something for awhile and thought I would ask here to see if anybody knows. I have checked out raw milk locally. It is illegal to sell here in Indiana, but a local farm has a cowshare program. They do not have any shares available and I can't afford that right now anyway. My question is, some of these farms sell raw milk pet products. They don't appear to be anything different than what we could eat if we choose to. Are they labeled for pets because of pasteurization laws? Are they ok for us to eat as well?
Snoopy

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C Ed Wright — Thu, 07 Jun 2007 14:59:52 GMT

Where do we get pasteurized milk? They drive the tank truck down the road, and then all the milk is past your eyes!

For everyone's info (FEI): Pasteurization was invented & implemented prior to the invention of refrigeration as a means to prevent rapid spoilage. Unrefrigerated raw milk spoils within hours (not sure how many, depends how warm, too) but keeps awhile in the fridge. Probably not as long but long enough to enjoy it. "For your safety" many states 'outlawed' raw milk, as if no one could tell when milk spoiled! The myth that raw milk is contaminated with terrible disease organisms apparently has not gotten around to the calves whose lives depend on it, however. So far every instance of ANY contaminated milk including pasteurized has always occurred AFTER pasteurization during 'processing' (handling prior to bottling).

I was told that here in the Peoples Republic of New Jersey it is illegal to sell raw milk so I was surprised to just now see sources listed at RealMilk and now I will have to try it! No listings yet for Hawaii, sorry about that papamaui. Wherever States have 'protected' us from the valuable enzymes in the name of safety from spoilage, people can inform their legislatures that out here in the Real World of the 21st century we now have refrigeration to keep our raw milk fresh, so they can lift their ancient outdated bans on raw milk, and refocus their attention on the quality of processing as opposed to mandating unnecessary pasteurization.

I suppose pasteurized milk may keep longer in the fridge and sale dating might have to reflect that. So be it, t

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KAC — Thu, 07 Jun 2007 14:23:20 GMT

Dr. Mercola, If it wasn't for you, I wouldn't be drinking raw milk. I always stayed away from pasteurized milk but didn't realize the benefits of raw milk. I just wish I knew sooner when my kids were very little and plagued with ear infections and teeth problems. I thank you so much for what you do and how you want to help so many people in a great way.

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Ramona_203 — Thu, 07 Jun 2007 13:31:21 GMT

we have a local dairy farm, Calder's that delivers, to home and businesses, "Natural" milk which is supposed to be the closest thing to raw milk you can buy in Michigan. It is pasteruized but not homogenized. The cream on top (just like in the old days) you can either stir in the milk or spoon it off and put in your coffee. It is the best tasting milk imaginable. I have it delivered weekly in glass bottles and on delivery day set out last week's bottles for the milkman. just like in the old days! It's worth the cost to think I am doing something to try and safeguard the health of my children in our toxic planet.

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junebug24 — Thu, 07 Jun 2007 13:12:10 GMT

Like many of you I cannot find raw milk in my area I use Organic Valley
is all I can find. Junebug

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Tessas Treasures — Thu, 07 Jun 2007 13:10:40 GMT

I love raw milk and purchase it every week. To Steve who lives in Baltimore and asked where he can get raw milk. Take a drive up
I-83 and get off on exit 14 in York, Pa (Leader Heights). I can buy a
gallon of fresh cold right off the farm raw milk for $2.70 a gallon. I even
can pet the cows....so, that's pretty fresh. If you want the address, go to
rawmilk.com and research where can I get raw milk in PA.....you'll find
the address. They also sell organic cheeses made from the raw milk, plus fresh meat right from their Angus farm.....meat is awesome and really not expensive......People are always saying they can't afford to buy organic meats, cheeses and milk.....let me ask you, How expensive is cancer.....then maybe you'll understand that buying "real" organic products can help save you from developing cancer or other diseases from the chemicals that are in your food.

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Tessas Treasures — Thu, 07 Jun 2007 13:09:19 GMT

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Steve Rogers — Thu, 07 Jun 2007 12:46:35 GMT

Regarding Smartypants' comment.....
I would agree that drinking organic milk is better than drinking conventional milk. So below is the progress from unhealthy to healthy:
-Conventional pasteurized skim milk - worst of the worst
-Conventional pasteurized whole milk - next worst
-Organic pasteurized milk - better (no rGBH or insulin-like growth factor 1)
-Milk from grass-fed cows (organic) - even better (more omega-3 and less omega-6 and CLA)
- Milk from grazing grass-fed cows unpasteurized milk (organic) - Best (contains all the vitamins, enzymes, probiotics (good bacteria) and equal omega-3/omega-6 ratio and CLA)

Hey I drink raw cow's milk and I love it. I can not drink unpasteurized milk as it upsets my stomach ( I must not produce Lactase -the enzyme that breaks down lactose sugars ). My kids drink it too, but my wife only tried it once in cereal, but at least she drinks organic milk now. I think that is a good thing. Hopefully at some point she will lose her indoctrinated fear that unpasteurized milk is bad. And that whole milk will not make her gain weight vs. low fat milk. Fat is good...fat doesn't make people fat (that is natural fats like coconut oil and omega-3 and organically good saturated fats from milk/beef from grass-fed cows).

So that's my opinion.

P.S. Lynn46 ... if you are out there... where do you get raw milk for $3/gallon. I live near Baltimore and I am paying $6/gal and I keep needing more. I am going to be up to 3 gallons per week!

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papamaui — Thu, 07 Jun 2007 08:48:46 GMT

Hawaii may be "paradise" in terms of weather but when it comes to organic, raw milk ... it's just not available. State law prohibits it.

So, if "organic" pasteurized milk, which is a lot more expensive, isn't worth the extra you pay ... then what? "Organic Soy Milk"?

There are a few things I really like the taste and texture of milk for: breakfast granola, protein drink, etc.

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papamaui — Thu, 07 Jun 2007 08:45:56 GMT

Hawaii may be "paradise" in terms of weather but when it comes to organic, raw milk ... it's just not available. State law prohibits it.

So, if "organic" pasteurized milk, which is a lot more expensive, isn't worth the extra you pay ... then what? "Organic Soy Milk"?

There are a few things I really like the taste and texture of milk for: breakfast granola, protein drink, etc.