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Dogs Have a Sense of Right and Wrong

A study has shown that dogs have become more intelligent, and even developed a sense of right and wrong, through spending time with humans.

Because of the way owners have selected smarter and more empathic dogs over generations, these pets now appear to have a limited capacity to understand the desires, motivations and intentions of others.

A decade ago, most scientists would have dismissed the claims of dog owners that their precious pets could "human emotions". Now that dismissive view has been challenged by a remarkable experiment to probe canine cognition. Researchers put dogs through a classic experiment normally done with children, in which an instructor demonstrates to a toddler how to turn off a light using her forehead, once with her hands clearly visible and once when wrapped in a shawl, so that she can't use them. When invited to turn the light off for themselves, toddlers who were shown the first version use their heads, but those shown the second use their hands.

The standard interpretation is that the first group conclude that there must be a good but non-obvious reason for using the forehead method, as otherwise the instructor would have used her hands. As it turns out, dogs do the same thing, demonstrating that they have developed empathy.

Others have argued that since rough-and-tumble dog play rarely escalates into full-blown fighting, the animals must abide by rules and expect others to do the same. In other words, they know right from wrong.


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Posted On Aug 22, 2008
I'd say dogs do have a sense of rite and rong now that I look back.

And I've also always heard dogs are smarter than humans, so I set out one day to find out for myself.

I followed my dog around, where he went, I went and what he done I done. He licked himself, I licked myself. He rolled over, I rolled over. He pawed with all fours, I pawed with all fours. He peed on a weed, I peed on a weed.

Then, I got a ticket for urnating in public but he got off scott-free. I argued why don't my dog get a ticket, he did it first, then I got another ticket for resisting. Could have sworn my dog was laughing.

 
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Posted On Aug 26, 2008
"the animals abide by rules and expect others to do the same. In other words, they know right from wrong."

How can you equate the ability to anticipate results with knowing the difference between 'right' and 'wrong'?

Right and wrong? Right and wrong!!! Following rules, being obedient,
doing as you've been taught to earn the approval of others including
those in power constitutes 'right'?

This is so wrong!





 
BeeGirl
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Posted On Aug 26, 2008
Yup, animals are very pragmatic...you might say it is the hallmark of most animals, most of the time (with cuddly anthropomormised exceptions enough to prove the rule...).

I know a lot of pragmatic people, too.....

 
 
 
Posted On Aug 27, 2008
Uh-oh, I'm gonna get in trouble again.

If, at the annual office picnic, you and your boss were opponents in a team game, would you knock him down to gain an advantage? Not unless you were a perfect idiot. It's not about right and wrong, but about status and dominance. In casual parlance it's called "pecking order," but it exists in every creature from chickens, through wolves and dogs, to human beings. There is an alpha male (or female) in every group, and each member of any group knows their position vis-a-vis every other member of the group. Where do you think the phrase "top dog" came from?

Concepts of right and wrong are examples of higher order thinking having to do with issues of ethics and morals. Your dog knows nothing of morals. All he knows, by your tone of voice, is that you are displeased - and he is smart enough to want to avoid punishment.

 
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Posted On Aug 27, 2008
Yup....pogo says this is part of why the enemy is us...transcend alpha-beta lower order nonsense...tell those alphas to kiss their own rears cuz you won't be doing it anymore, lol....neither an alpha nor a beta be...


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Posted On Aug 27, 2008
Well said , Islander.


Aaltrude
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Posted On Aug 28, 2008
OK, so Islander has 6 points so far for her comment, yet I have negative points for agreeing with her.

 
 
 
Posted On Aug 23, 2008
I'd say just about every dog owner knows that dogs know right from wrong.

If my pouch does something wrong, you can immediately tell. His tail doesn't wag as much, and he doesn't act right. Then you see what he did and say something like "What you do?",it is almost as if he is saying he's sorry for it.....

42

Also, thanks Rogway! I laughed so hard when I read that story! I'm still laughing about it after I read it yesterday.

 
JWRM42
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Posted On Aug 25, 2008
Good one Rogway - your post gave me my first good laugh for the day.

The example 42 gives shows that dogs can understand from past experience when they do things  you don't allow. One of our dogs likes to try and eat chips of bark from the wood we have inside for our heater. You can tell by the sly way he sneaks up to it when he thinks we are not looking that he knows we don't want him to do it. You do however have to be careful in your interpretation of their actions. If you see your dog doing something wrong, call your dog over to you then tell them off, their reaction in this case is more likely to be to your tone of voice than to any any cognition of wrong doing. All you are likely to achieve in this situation is to teach your dog it is not pleasant to come when called. This is a mistake that I have often seen unrealising people make - you are actually telling them off for coming to you. You should only ever reprimand a dog for a misdeed if you catch it in the act and you should always praise your dog when it comes when called even if it was misbehaving immediately beforehand. In this case you just have to bite your tongue and wait for the next opportunity to let your dog know what is not acceptable behaviour.

 
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