What We’ve Learned About COVID-19 Testing and Immunity

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WL4816 — 8/17/2020 7:05:25 PM

This very long article (www.globalresearch.ca/.../5721128 ) is well-written and, like a number of other similarly well-researched articles, says that COVID-19 doesn't exist and that the crisis is manufactured, based on unsubstantiated (i.e. "junk") science. It says that, so far, the SARS-CoV-2 RNA virus has not been isolated and purified; thus, there is no evidence that the alleged virus exists. It says the PCR test, initially designed by biochemist Kary Mullis, is being used to inflate the number of COVID-19 case counts and is not an accurate diagnostic tool. It says that hospitals have not been overrun with COVID-19 cases (also, see this: www.npr.org/.../as-hospitals-lose-revenue-thousands-of-health-care-workers-face-furloughs-layoff ). In addition to the further pauperization of the masses of people, the author suspects that the indebtedness caused by the manufactured crisis, which is also known as the "Great Reset," will result in the selling off of the public sector to creditors, i.e. privatization of roads, state and national parks, post offices, etc. (which would be similar to what happened in Greece).

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better2be — 8/17/2020 12:51:41 PM

The lead for this article mentions the two major types of testing available, antibody and molecular (RT-PCR); but there is a third type, antigen testing, which is under- (or un-)utilized, and has some intriguing possibilities to stop the spread of the virus. [As publicized by Dr. Mina, Harvard Epidemiologist, www.medcram.com/.../antigen-highlights ]. You can't order these tests (even though the Secret Service uses them!) because they are not FDA-approved. The FDA, and CDC, has had some major blunders on testing, including the initial molecular test CDC originated in Jan/Feb, which was contaminated, and didn't work; as well as dozens of early EUAs (Emergency Use Authorizations) for antibody tests which were inaccurate and unreliable. This mess has been somewhat cleaned up with standardization, including the high sensitivity required for RT-PCR tests (the "gold standard"), RT-PCRs can achieve this level of sensitivity because they amplify the virus signal-RNA- many times over with the 'reverse transcriptase' enzyme. This requires many cycles of heat in a laboratory; but it can be scaled up, and automated (eg, robots): at a considerable cost/investment!! Antigen tests are much simpler, they use monoclonal antibodies on a paper strip, which react with capsid proteins (the antigen). They require no expensive instruments, can be performed at home, and return results in 15 minutes--and they're cheap ($1-2)! They are also NOT sensitive, they require a much higher threshhold of virus particles--which, as it turns out, corresponds rather well to the contagious period of a Covid-19 infection. (Did I mention that at this high level of infection, either spit or ordinary nasal swaps with a Q-tip will work as the sample?) Most importantly, they are cheap enough to run daily, guiding your decision (even if you're asymptomatic) on whether to go out to school or work that day. That could be a Game-changer for the spread of coronavirus!

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darnaud — 8/17/2020 9:32:25 AM

A correction to your post: a positive test result only indicates that some strand of RNA was detected. It cannot quantify the viral load and does not identify infection. The virologist is misinformed.

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mrrobb — 8/16/2020 4:32:53 PM

More twisted lies and assumptions.... Use some common sense ...this is the biggest scam on earth.... https/.../watch All anyone really KNOWS is what YOU have been TOLD to Know.....about this 'Evil CrolaCovidScrs bug/virus/disease mysterious Red Ball with Blunted spikes.....or course it might mutate into a blue ball with orange spikes or mutate into a bug with wings so it can be air-born or can fly thru brick walls ....this is a bigger scam that the NASA scam extracting trillions out of Tax coffers and entertaining millions with the hollywood moon walk and spoof pictures from ISS to the mars scam.......hahhahahha what a SCAM........... but millions took it Hook-Line-sinker... Now these 'unknown ' Scientist' and finding a cure????? a cure for what/////they don't even KNOW what the real problem is ...........LOL .this is all like playing Basketball ...........without a ball....... When are YOU gonna wake up and see thru the 'Smoke-n-Mirrors'??....

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mirandola — 8/16/2020 2:16:23 PM

A PhD macromolecular biologist-researcher from Stanford wrote to me that this PCR test is not specific. It tells you if there is An Infection present but not which exact one. It requires someone of her specialization, in crystallography, which sees inside the cells, to positively identify the exact virus.

Her exact words in one of her messages could not fit here, I will post below, please see. Please note that her caps are for emphasis, not shouts, to make clarifications and distinctions. thankyou all.

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swdhj1 — 8/16/2020 12:27:09 PM

A person only has antibodies if they were infected; i.e., the coronavirus got past the innate immune system and infected some host cells, and then the body reacted through the adaptive immune system to produce antibodies. However, there is a significant block of the population (possibly even a majority), that have a well functioning innate immune system, who will not get infected even if exposed to the coronavirus. That is, they inhale coronavirus particles, but they were not successful in entering host cells. These are your friends and coworkers who never catch a cold, never get the flu, and would probably never get any coronavirus or any other upper respiratory illness. What these people have in common has not been thoroughly studied, but they probably have Vitamin D and zinc adequacy and eat a lot of foods with flavonoids. Flavonoids like quercetin and luteolin are the substances that protect the epithelial cells in the lung lining by binding to the ACE2 receptors so that the coronavirus spike proteins cannot enter those cells and use them as hosts.

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Jayyebird — 8/16/2020 10:34:58 AM

The tests are a HOAX just like Covid19 is a HOAX!

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esclyde — 8/16/2020 9:55:47 AM

Did anyone else note what I did in the map shown at the end of the referenced article? For all that bashing of the US in the media, the number of deaths vs. number of confirmed cases is hugely lower for most states in the US than for almost any countries in the rest of the world.

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Almond — 8/16/2020 9:00:20 AM

I don't see much value in testing for most people like me. So what if I have been symptomless. It does not mean I have lifetime immunity--could always get it again. I don't believe most of the routine tests are of much value diagnostically, either--as we have seen with the governor of Ohio. Getting tested to assuage my curiosity would be a luxury and I do not want govt to have my medical records. I am still getting online and mail request to send my medical records to my provider--I don't even know the name of my assigned doctor as I have never seen him. That tells me any medical records on me are very minimal. Interestingly, they say I do not even need to come in for an appt--just forward my records. (So they can mine and sell them?)

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swonicky — 8/16/2020 8:44:35 AM

We don't stand a chance in hell when stupid rules.

God help us.

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Randyfast — 8/16/2020 7:48:19 AM

Tests for corona? No thanks! How about a test to determine how many people still have a functioning brain!