Two California ER Doctors Share Their Testing Data Supporting Ending Shelter in Place

re: Two California ER Doctors Share Their Testing Data Supporting Ending Shelter in Place

memartin2 — 4/29/2020 10:16:17 AM

Youtube took down the videos. They were there yesterday, gone today for "violating community standards". Obviously not the standards of MY community -- these are the standards imposed by the deep state and the pharma companies.

Youtube is a tool that is being used to censor our freedom of speech and our right to know. Everything else it does is a sham. They are trying to train people to become compliant and accept censorship, telling us that "this is for your own good".

That's the same thing they told the tomcat when they took him to the vet.

re: Two California ER Doctors Share Their Testing Data Supporting Ending Shelter in Place

jasonhorine — 4/28/2020 4:06:31 PM

Data: Some Californians have been tested, and roughly 12% of them had COVID.

Conclusion: If we tested ALL Californians, we would have found 12% of them, or 4.7M have COVID.

Why the conclusion is absurd: They are testing people with symptoms, or who generally have some other need to be tested. I mean, if every Californian with a toothache went to a dentist and 50% of them were found to have a cavity, you would be an idiot to conclude that on average 50% of all Californians have cavities.

Honestly, I stopped listening there. I would let this guy prescribe me an aspirin.

re: Two California ER Doctors Share Their Testing Data Supporting Ending Shelter in Place

m22harbin — 4/28/2020 10:27:29 AM

The idea of lockdowns came when the models showed the highly contagious virus could possibly overwhelm our medical resources. The models has since been shown to be wildly off the mark and our medical resources have not been overwhelmed. Furthermore, the death rate seems to be similar to the seasonal flu. Thus, the original reason for the lockdowns, the models, did not materialize. Consequently, there is no valid reason to continue the general lockdowns. Note: Continue to protect the elderly and frail.

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ragus — 4/28/2020 3:24:29 AM

You can agree or disagree with the two doctors, but it seems like one of the videos have been removed for whatever reason, so you might have to search for Dr. Erickson and COVID-19 to hear their opinion on the matter, and the numbers they base them on: vimeo.com/search www.youtube.com/results https://www.bitchute.com/

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bertmccarthy — 4/27/2020 10:07:54 AM

How can these two highly intelligent, well-educated physicians play so fast and loose with the numbers? For example, Norway takes precautions and they have only 1/7 the death rate as Sweden (limited precautions). They should be saying "Wow. See how effective the precautions are!"

And as someone stated elsewhere , it is utterly bogus to think that you can look at the number of people testing positive relative to the number tested and then extrapolate these percentages across the entire population. THE PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING TESTED ARE BEING TESTED FOR A REASON. THEY ALREADY ARE IN A SUB-SET OF PEOPLE WHO ARE MUCH MORE LIKELY TO BE POSITIVE. THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT BEEN TESTED ARE GENERALLY NOT BEING TESTED BECAUSE THEY ARE LESS LIKELY TO BE POSITIVE!

Additionally, they are comparing numbers of COVID deaths with typical numbers of flu deaths, BUT THE NUMBER OF COVID DEATHS ARE OCCURING WITH VERY SIGNIFICANT ISOLATION AND QUARANTINES AND DISTANCING! ABSENT THESE PRECAUTIONS, IT IS FAIR TO SAY THAT THE NUMBER OF AMERICAN COVID DEATHS WOULD BE MUCH CLOSER TO 200,000 OR EVEN 500,000. ADDITIONALLY, THE NUMBER OF FLU DEATHS OCCUR EACH YEAR OVER THE COURSE OF A SIX-MONTH FLU SEASON. LET'S SEE HOW MANY COVID DEATHS THERE ARE AFTER SIX MONTHS (WE ARE ONLY TWO MONTHS INTO THIS PANDEMIC).

Dr. Mercola, I can't believe you cannot see the errors of their arguments!!!

re: Two California ER Doctors Share Their Testing Data Supporting Ending Shelter in Place

ragus — 4/27/2020 4:07:24 AM

The recent interview "Perspectives on the Pandemic | Dr. John Ioannidis Update: 4.17.20 | Episode 4" is also interesting: www.youtube.com/watch

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downbythesea — 4/27/2020 1:23:23 AM

An article in Time (April 24) states that after the lock down in Hokkaido, Japan was lifted, the second wave was more virulent with more people contracting the virus. They did not state how many deaths there were, or if those who died, had a compounded/pre-existing condition. Not unlike other media accounts.

According to these front line ER doctors in California, and common knowledge we all learned in Biology, a healthy immune system is strengthened by fighting off invaders. When people lock themselves away and try to make their environment as sterile as possible, our immunity weakens. The point is, of course, far better stated by Dr. Erickson and his colleague in this interview. Perhaps what they are saying has already been proven to be the case in Japan.

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mag3748 — 4/26/2020 9:43:24 PM

I would love to be able to believe these guys but they totally misrepresented the Sweden/Norway comparison. In fact, Norway (with the lockdown) have 37 deaths per million while Sweden (no Lockdown) have 217 deaths/ mil. as of 4/26/20 See worldometers.info. I'm left wondering what their agenda is.

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DannyBoy62 — 4/26/2020 1:22:34 PM

Vaccines are not Immunity!!! That’s what the CDC wants us to believe, which is a COMPLETE LIE!!!

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nardobuddy — 4/26/2020 11:26:48 AM

Very good. Brave physicians and true leaders to stand up and talk facts and follow through with intelligent conclusions and opinions. These are facts based on REALITY.

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ianmac — 4/26/2020 10:48:57 AM

I attended the same microbiology lectures as the medical students at Aberdeen University, and I agree that all that these two doctors say is merely informed commonsense.

You strengthen your immune system by giving it lots of practice. It's now known that most of your immune system is in the colonies of microbes inside you, and it hadn't occurred to me, but if you aren't meeting people, you won't share their microbes, and your immune system will be weakened. So, when lockdown ends we can expect a spike of sickness as people start sharing their microbes again.

To me, that means take plenty of vitamins C and D and zinc and magnesium before joining humanity again.