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Preventing HPV Without a Vaccine is the Real Answer

A bill introduced by U.S. Rep. Phil Gingrey (R-GA) would eliminate any federal funding for human papillomavirus (HPV) vaccination programs.

Such a bill has little chance of getting through Congress on its own, but some believe it could be attached to the 2008 spending bill for the Department of Health and Human Services that may not be blocked at all.

At the same time, Virginia Gov. Timothy Kaine has requested $4 million in state funds to provide the vaccine for children of low-income families.

Preventative Medical Care

Wall Street Journal columnist Dr. Benjamin Brewer believes the real reason too many women die from cervical cancer has more to do with a lack of access by low-income women to preventative medical care than a vaccine.

He cites the development of newer, better Pap smears that has made cervical cancer a rarity in the United States by cutting down on false positive results and improving cancer screenings. Brewer has encountered just one case of cervical cancer over the past nine years in his practice.

News-Medical.net March 11, 2007

Wall Street Journal March 8, 2007


Dr. Mercola's Comment:

If you've read the myriad of articles appearing lately in the mainstream press, you'd assume the unnecessary Merck vaccine, Gardasil, is the only way known to man to prevent the human papillomavirus (HPV), the most common cause of cervical cancer, even though this cancer is almost completely avoidable with appropriate lifestyle habits.

But even if people choose not to avoid risky behaviors there is still a major question as to just how dangerous this virus really is. Although more than 6 million women contract HPV every year, just 2 percent of the patients participating in a recent study were infected with the kinds of HPV that put them at a higher risk of developing cervical cancer.

But nonetheless, just as various state legislatures fight about the dubious need for mandating a new and costly vaccine to treat the HPV virus, GlaxoSmithKline has announced that they will file an application with the FDA for an HPV vaccine of their own called Cervarix.

If the feds deem it necessary to grant Cervarix fast-track status, the vaccine -- just as unnecessary as Gardasil -- may be available by year's end.

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Posted On Mar 14, 2007
It still fascinates me how "they" always focus on the symptom of a bigger problem. So "they" see HPV as a problem, so "they" develop something in order to wipe it out? Why not work backwards and try to figure out where it is coming from?

From all my reading and research, I have to somewhat disagree with the findings in this article. Not Dr. Mercola, but how they correlate HPV to cervical cancer. "Women are much more likely to get cervical cancer if they have been on the pill." Dr. Lee

 A pap smear tests form cancerous or precancerous cells on the cervix. Therer are 5 classes: 1) normal 2) inflammation or irritation 3) cervical dysplasia 4)some pre or cancerous cells 5) invasive cancer. The problem with this test according to Dr. Lee is that there are a lot of false-positive's, giving a more serious rating than there already is.

According to Dr. Lee, positive findings in a pap smear happen from: traumatic sex, tampons, condoms, smoking, douches and spermicides on condoms. As well, progesterone deficiency can also contribute to cervical dysplasia secondary to making the cervix more susceptible to inflammation and irritation (secondary to the women being estrogen dominant).

So most MD's look at cervical dysplasia as the byproduct from HPV. In my opinion from treating so many women that are estrogen dominant, have low progesterone levels, smoke, have sex, use condoms, etc, what do you think the cause might be? I am not saying these are the only reasons, but why not consider them before taking a vaccine?

"We know that the use of oral contraceptives increases the risk of cervical dysplasia by AT LEAST 50% and the risk of cervical cancer by AT LEAST 25%." Dr. Lee


 
Josh Rubin
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Posted On Mar 20, 2007
Using little girls to make big money:
Say no to HPV Vaccine
http://www.sayno2gardasil.blogspot.com
For parents geniunely concerned for the health of their daughters, read and consider this. Sure you can protect your daughter from cervical cancer. But at what cost? At really who's benefit?
Those damned pharmaceuticals should be kept in check from interfering from political and governmental regulatory affairs. They stuff cash for people to be their poster boys, and bribe politicians. It's people's health, not a game.


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Posted On Mar 31, 2007
Here is a letter I just sent to Rep. Andrew Romanoff of CO.  It's important that people write letters to their elected officials and show up, if possible, to give testimony.  You don't have to have a medical degree or be an expert witness, just an regular citizen who has an opinion on this or any other issues that concern you.

Dear Andrew,
 
I met w/you a couple of weeks ago to discuss the HPV (help pay for Vioxx)
bill which I have grave concerns about.  First of all, does it make sense to
take $1.5 million from a "prevention, early detection and treatment fund to
the program fund for the program..."?? I don't think so.  Thanks to preventative
screenings and pap smears, cervical cancer has been reduced by 75-80%.
90% of HPV clears out by itself naturally. 
 
As mentioned in our conversation, in clinical trials, 17 girls have died and 85% of
1200 girls have experienced severe side effects such as asthma, myalgia, juvenile
and rheumatoid arthritis, seizures, lack of consciousness and Guillain-Barre, which
causes paralysis as you may know.  The Swine Flu program was an abysmal failure
in that Guillain-Barre was contracted by thousands of people.  To date, people are
still experiencing paralytic symptoms. 
 
What "program" is in place to cover lawsuits arising from side effects/deaths from
this vaccine?  Will the vaccine be pulled from the marketplace as the Swine Flu
and Rotavirus vaccine were after claims were filed for damages? 
 
I'm sorry I don't have the resources and/or manpower to bombard our politicians
as the drug cos. do.  Witness Pharma's lobbysists and reps in the hearing room as
these related bills are heard.  Also we have Merck's transparent shell, "Women in
Gov't", which has been funded to an estimated $5 million and of which, Sen. Suzanne
Williams, Boyd and Stafford are members.  Conveniently, they are sponsoring/supporting
these HPV/cervical cancer bills. 
 
Insurance costs will inevitably rise as these shots are added to the roster.  "Opt-outs"
are meaningless in that HIPPA does not safeguard data and databases' info are privy
to insurance cos., drug cos., etc.  If one chooses not to have their child inoculated
w/675 micrograms of aluminum, among other neuro-toxins contained in the shots, then
they are singled out and will most likely pay higher ins. premiums or be precluded from
coverage as a result. 
 
The vaccine has not been proven to be without side-effects (see above), efficacy has
not been proven necessitating the need for more booster shots increasing the load of
toxic ingreds. contained in the vaccine, Congress is putting forth legislation to prevent
federal funds from being used for paying for this vaccine, etc.  Mandating coverage for
the vaccine through ins. cos. will indemnify drug cos. from lawsuits arising from deaths
and side effects.  Again, what guarantee is given to provide funds for damages incurred
from this vaccine?  This "program" has not been thought through and safeguards are
not in place to protect citizens from damages.
 
Have you talked w/any of these legislators or is this already a done deal as it appears?
Rep. Jerry Frangas told me he had already made up his mind and couldn't change his
vote as it would "upset his colleagues and those he had promised his vote to."  So
basically these hearings are just a formality in that the public "thinks" it has an effect
in testifying, which is not the case apparently.
 
Let me know your thoughts. 
 
Mary Hendrick
Denver, CO


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Posted On Jul 31, 2007
Thank you, Josh, for the validation! I was diagnosed with a moderate(as opposed to mild or severe) dysplasia a few years back. I was told it was a symptom of HPV as I'd had lesions show up in paps. I had a colpo exam and was instructed to get a LEEP procedure. As I haven't had children, I was told that the LEEP can cause scarring which could reduce my chances of conception as well as increase my risk of miscarriage if pregnancy should occur. I decided against the LEEP in spite of all MDs advice in the situation. I asked questions. I couldn't get any answers. I was advised to get off Depo which I'd been taking for over 10 years. When I asked why or whether it contributed to cancer all MDs denied any correlation and said my "calcium might be low as a result of extended use". My calcium levels and bone density were fantastic. As I explained this, I was still advised to switch to a "milder" hormone birth control. After asking about diaphragms, one MD laughed at me insisting I was ridiculous for not taking a low dosage of oral birth control, but still insinuated I should be off Depo. I felt really tiny in a sea of useless info looking for answers. I did get one sufficient and realistic answer which was that no one knows the long term effects of Depo as I was one of few who had used it 10yrs. I started taking vitamins, Vitalzym and cut much of the processed sugar from my diet. I "irresponsibly" ignored my problem. I got off Depo for over a year using only condoms. A year later, I got a call to come in for LEEP as there was concerned at my MD about my disappearance. I insisted on another colpo before consenting to LEEP which came up negative for dysplasia. I told the MD what I had done to care for my own health. He dismissed it as random remission. Are "they" wrong about dysplasia and HPV? Who is Dr. Lee? Can I do anything else to get rid of HPV?

 
 
 
Posted On Sep 27, 2007
I have two daughters: 19 and 21, raised in an alternative-medicine household even though they were vaccinated as babies/toddlers (I didn't finish the vaccine series that are recommended up until age 14 thank God). I had done so much research and still felt so torn about the feelings I'd have if they had caught polio or diptheria, etc. However with Guardisil, I have no  problem with guilt. I think the vaccine is horrible and not designed to target a specific problematic disease. Bad pap smears can happen from any number of things not related to the HPV virus. It's bad science, and I am having a HARD time convincing my daughers of this. They will probably sneek and get it at the college campus or Planned Parenthood. They fell victim to the media surrounding this vaccine. Pray I can get them not to take it!

 
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Posted On Mar 31, 2007
Another astonishing example of downstream thinking. The Canadian government just tabled their budget for 2007-2008 and $300 million dollars has been earmarked for a vaccination campaign for HPV. Our healthcare system could surely better use that $300 million dollars in other areas!

 
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Posted On Mar 31, 2007
liandra - you know I'm usually a peace, love, wholeness, balance  and love-all-mankind kind of person... BUT for government.  I know they are good people individually, but the power they wield, and the threat of force to see their will through unnerves me.  Some will blame this on the pharmaceutical, but you have correctly identified the cuprit.  Government wants to more and more take control of our lives - because they think we are too stupid and can't be relied on. 

Look at almost any social problem that government tried to address - almost universally things got worse after the program was in place and had time to "work".  This HPV thing is another example.

Vote no on all tax increases, no matter what for.  Vote for candidates who convince you they will fight to lower taxes and abolish government programs. 

Just my opinion.  Duane

 
 
 
Posted On Mar 19, 2007
 The real risks factors for cervical cancer. The vaccine issue distracts from one of the major risk factors, passive and active smoking, (Obstr and Gynec Jan 2005)  Another interesting article  Relationship Between deranged Antioxdant Systems and Cervical Neoplasia ( Inter J Gynec Cancer Sep-Oct 2006)  We know that virusus increase  of damaging free radicals  Glutathione levels are reduced by both smoking and  with viral infections. Variants of the folic acid processing gene MTFFR ,are estimated to effect up to 50 percent of the population.  Folic acid and B12 are necessary to convert  Homocysteine to Glutathione.  ( helps repair DNA ,among other benificial things)  Hormones, anti-acids,,non-steroidal -pain killers all can lower folic acid levels and increase the cancer risk. Lets look at the real causes and preventative measures,  rather than the  distraction  and risks of a vaccine

 
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Posted On Mar 31, 2007
What strikes me as odd is that if boys are infecting girls, why aren't boys being required to get the vaccine? I wrote to the CDC who state that they are still testing a version for boys. But if the vaccine is intended to prevent a viral infection, why should it be different for girls and boys. I don't know of any other vaccine that is different for the sexes. Of course I don't believe a word of it - the vaccine is ridiculous. But I think the surest way to keep it from becoming mandatory for girls is to insist that it also then become mandatory for boys.

 
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