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Bottled Water Not Cool Anymore

Bottled water is pricey, contributes to global warming, litter, and solid waste, and is usually no safer or healthier than tap water. Increasing numbers of environmentalists, shareholder activists and church groups are targeting the leading sellers of bottled water.

For example, shareholders working with an activist group called Corporate Accountability International have asked Coca-Cola to report on the sources and safety of its bottled water, and environmental groups including the Natural Resources Defense Council and the Sierra Club have urged their supporters to consume less bottled water.

Salt Lake City's outspoken mayor, Rocky Anderson, asked city officials to stop handing out bottled water at meetings, and a handful of high-end restaurants have stopped serving it.

However, U.S. sales of bottled water rose by nearly 10 percent in 2006. Americans consumed about 8.3 billion gallons of bottled water that year, or about 26 gallons per person.

CNNMoney.com April 25, 2007


Dr. Mercola's Comment:

One of the great benefits of reading this newsletter is that you will consistently be AHEAD of the curve on nearly every health issue. As this CNN report shows, bottled water has finally made the official transition into "not cool" status. If you had been reading this site, you would have realized that fact SIX YEARS AGO.

While not the most crucial issue covered by this newsletter, it is important if you value the environment and the fate of future generations.

Bottling and transporting water puts an enormous strain on the environment. Not only are there wasteful costs in transporting this water, but enormous amounts of energy are used to create the bottles that actually store these billions of gallons of water.

Once you get past the energy issue you will still have to contend with the type of plastic that the bottle is stored in, as there are many potentially dangerous types of plastic

Most water bottles are made of safe polyethylene, but many carry their filtered water around in potentially dangerous plastic that can leach chemicals into their water. Conventional Nalgene bottles should be avoided.

Ideally, it would be best to avoid using all disposable bottled water sources. Water delivered to your home in reusable five-gallon jugs is not as significant an energy hog. However, using water from your own well or municipal water supply that is filtered would be better.

So ideally you will use filtered water from your own tap. The best way to do this is highly controversial. I have been working on offering a water filter solution for over six years now, and I am still researching it. The challenge is to provide a high-quality one at a reasonable price, and I refuse to do it until I find the right one.

I really hope to have one this year, but if you must simply get one before then and want to do your own research I have studied it enough to know that reverse osmosis filters are the way to go.

It is important to know that typically the only filter that is effective at removing the fluoride that is added to most municipal water supplies is a reverse osmosis filter. Although I have well water in my home that does not have fluoride added, I still use this type of filter personally.

Some are concerned that it takes minerals out of the water but that should not be a major source of your minerals anyway. Whatever you do, avoid distilled water unless you are using it therapeutically for some sort of detox.

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Posted On Apr 26, 2007
I've been recommending for years that people use Nalgene type bottles and just fill up at home if you have a well and get a really good reverse osmosis filter if you have city water. I recommend drinking 2-3 liters of water per day, depending on your activity.

If you're not waking up in the middle of the night to pee, you're not drinking enough water.

Oh, by the way...what did our paleolithic ancestors drink? Milk, soda, juice?  NO, Water!

 
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Posted On Apr 26, 2007
Non chlorinated, non floridated, or manipulated water, per your final comment, and not in any plastic container, or plumbing, either.


Bridestein
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Posted On Apr 26, 2007
I've been wondering about this lately. Did people really drink such large amounts of water on a daily basis all through time? I've never read anything about it, but I have a hard time imagining that they did. There are so many people who have or had irregular access to water and yet survive(d).
Just being curious here, but it seems like if you were drinking two or three litres a day that's all you'd be doing all day long, your stomach would never be empty enough for food and you'd be in the bathroom every 15 minutes. Wouldn't you?


cyan
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Posted On Apr 26, 2007
Dr. David, why do you (and Dr. Mercola) recommend reverse osmosis? From what I can tell, it is not the best filter because it takes the minerals out of the water, and the water then strips minerals from your body.

Last year Dr. Mercola hinted he would be coming out with a water filter recommendation, but he never has, and thus I currently have no water filter at all (I don't want to waste my money on second best).

Can you add the minerals back after you've done reverse osmosis?


Dr. David Spitz
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Posted On Apr 26, 2007
Cyan---Reverse osmosis does take the minerals out of the water. How much of these minerals would you actually absorb and use if they were left in the water?

From what I understand, the minerals in water are in the ionic form, (positive-charged molecules). Since your digestive tract is positively charged also, the positively charged ions and your positively charged intestines mean that the minerals are repelled from the lining of your digestive tract. This means you probably won't absorb many of the minerals anyway. In other words, the amount of minerals you'd absorb from non-reverse osmosis water compared to the amount of minerals you normally absorb on a daily basis is insignificant.

I am not aware of a method of purifying the water as well as reverse osmosis which takes out all the chemicals, etc without also removing the minerals.



Dr. David Spitz
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Posted On Apr 26, 2007
Bridestein--thanks for your reply.....You may be interested in this article.

I found the following information at: http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/library/NU/00283.html

A couple of approaches attempt to approximate water needs for the average, healthy adult living in a temperate climate.

  • Replacement approach. The average urine output for adults is 1.5 liters a day. You lose close to an additional liter of water a day through breathing, sweating and bowel movements. Food usually accounts for 20 percent of your total fluid intake, so if you consume 2 liters of water or other beverages a day (a little more than 8 cups) along with your normal diet, you will typically replace the lost fluids.
  • Dietary recommendations. The Institute of Medicine advises that men consume roughly 3.0 liters (about 13 cups) of total beverages a day and women consume 2.2 liters (about 9 cups) of total beverages a day.

Even apart from the above approaches, it is generally the case that if you drink enough fluid so that you rarely feel thirsty and produce between one and two liters of colorless or slightly yellow urine a day, your fluid intake is probably adequate.




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Posted On Apr 26, 2007
Dr. David Spitz,
I disagree with you about water intake. A blanket statement that everyone should drink 2 - 3 liters of water a day is not a wise statement. Two to three liters is too much for some people, especially older people over 60 who may have low stomach acid. Drinking that much water on a daily basis will dilute their already low levels of acid and they won't be able to digest their food properly. Unless an adult is losing a lot of water due to hot climate conditions or high physical activity on a given day, I believe that 2 to 3 liters of water intake per day could be excessive for many people. The color of a person's urine is a useful guide to whether or not he/she is getting enough fluid intake.


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Posted On Apr 27, 2007
Reverse osmosis is useless if you have fluoridated water as it does not remove the small fluoride molecules present in tap water.  I learned this from talking to the Crystal water filter company.  Since, my water is heavily fluoridated I have resorted to just using bottled water as I don't really know a water filter that will work except for a special 12-stage carbon type water filter I see Crystal selling.  However, I do not believe this water filter is effective of taking out all the toxins that the reverse-osmosis can.  Also, I find the taste of reverse osmosis water bland and sterile.  I like the flavor of the Crystal Geyser bottle water I am currently using.  I do recycle all my bottles and the only thing lost is the cap.  I feel bad, but as of now I do not know the alternative.  Maybe, eventually I will become a millionaire and be able to buy that glass bottled war from europe that cost like $3.00 a liter or move far into the country where fluoridation and heavy spraying of chemicals around municipal waterways is absent.


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Posted On Apr 27, 2007
Cyan,

     Here in Pittsburgh and in many parts of the US there is a major problem with synthetic hormonal contamination in the water. Local researchers into the hormonal contamination issue have been finding channel catfish throughout our water supply rivers with no differentiated genitalia and in some instances levels of estrogen that are as high or higher than a woman. To the best of my knowledge reverse osmosis is the only form of water purification that eliminates the synthetic hormones that get into our water supply from the urine of birth control pill and HRT users (water treatment plants don't get rid of synthetic hormones before releasing the "treated" water into the rivers). Considering the health risks to my family from the hormones I would rather supplement minerals than deal with the thought of my kids and husband being on BCP when they drink water.                            


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Posted On Apr 27, 2007
Lynn46---You are correct that blanket statement of 2-3 liters is not wise. Obviously that wouldn't apply to small children or many seniors. I stand corrected.


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Posted On Apr 27, 2007
anikken4u - all u have to do to energize water is shake vigorously in a glass jar.  It will add oxygen, and the add'l kinetic energy will create natural hydrogen peroxide in the water.  That's all you have to do.  But your water system is good, I'm sure, because it does that and more. 


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Posted On Apr 30, 2007
Katharine,
From what I understand, RO only filters out molecules larger that water, and many herbicides, pesticides, and synthetic chemicals are SMALLER than water, thus they cannot be filtered out by RO alone.

A carbon block filter removes contaminants mechanically AND chemically and leaves in the minerals. This seems like the best filter to me. But I am still researching.


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Posted On Apr 30, 2007
cyan:
Bad news...
Good news - thanks!


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Posted On May 01, 2007
Natural Body Balance - "ionizes the minerals with a negative charge" ?? "microclusters of water" ??


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Posted On May 08, 2007
I don't generally get out of bed in the middle of the night, but I did urinate almost 2 pounds this morning!

(yes, just for grins I weighed before and after.)


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Posted On May 08, 2007
Where do you get the nalgene bottles?


GRAYWOLF
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Posted On May 08, 2007
" Where do you get the nalgene bottles?"

As luck would have it, I believe Dr Mercola sells them on his site...


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Posted On May 08, 2007
We have really good tap water where I live; however, I did purchase an Aquasana undercounter filter for our kitchen and 2 shower filters.  My question to you conerns the transporting of water.  I bring my filtered water to work in a New Wave Enviro polycarbonate bottle with a 7 in the triangle, but no PETE or H...   What do you know about this type of hard plastic?  I was under the impression that this was fairly safe as it was not supposed to leach.


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Posted On May 09, 2007
If you want clean chemical free water and also food look at ozone, which can do both without taking the good things out of water and food.www.earthsafeozone.com


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Posted On May 10, 2007
Bridestein - I agree with you.  Drinking quarts of water a day is newfangled nonsense and probably harmful.


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Posted On May 11, 2007
people think RO filters are good. The problem is that it takes 5 gallons of water to filter 1 gallon. Water waste???


gajo
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Posted On May 11, 2007
RO system??? Hah! What happens if your water is shut off by the city to do work on the line? Your RO is useless. What about an earthquake and your water is shut off? Where will you get water? With bottled water, you always have running water.


JoeFizz ADHD PhD
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Posted On May 25, 2007
All this wacko crazy talk about plastic and filtering and praying at yer water and cations and ...

The bottom line is:  What color my pee to be?


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Posted On Feb 24, 2008
I've read through all the posts but no mention of issues with distilled
water when making your own colloidal silver.
I understand that it is the only type of water that should be used for this purpose, which is logical because of the absence of other minerals and contaminants.
I wonder though about some of the other issues discussed here regarding concerns with distilled. (i.e. compounds leeched during production, the structure of the water, etc.) Any thoughts on this?

 
 
 
Posted On May 08, 2007
Alternatives to plastic to tote our filtered water for the day.

Hi All!
Thank you Dr. M for this great reminder that plastic bottles are bad for us and the planet.  I'm finding that model to be pretty true.... what's good for me is generally good for the planet.

So last year I treated myself to a SIGG stainless steel water bottle and for weekend trips or over nighters, I keep my fresh filtered water in large glass jars in the car.  For longer trips I just take a PUR water pitcher in my luggage.  I'm really happy with my SIGG.  Of note, the inside is coated (looks like a yellow/copper color).  One thing I like is I can freeze some water in the SIGG (put filtered water in and put the bottle on it's side in the freezer) and then fill it up with filtered water before leaving.  It is currently about 80 degrees here in California and the ice helps keep the water from getting too hot in my car. 

I would look forward to hearing tips from the rest of you on your alternatives to plastic bottles. 

Thanks,
Suzanne

 
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Posted On May 08, 2007
Hi Suzanne! How are you? I also use a stainless steel water bottle although mine does not have any sort of interior coating.
I am currently searching for a one gallon stainless steel container since I bring spring water from home to make coffee at work, but have yet to find one. If you or anyone else knows, please post it here. Thanks!


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Posted On May 08, 2007
I use a glass Thermos. It's safe and keeps the water cold. I use a PUR carbon filter on tap water. I'd rather ingest a little fluoride than whatever perchlorates or plastics (from the bottles) or other chem's are in bottled water, which is overpriced and bad for the environment. My Dad's been drinking unfiltered tap water all his life and he's in his 70's and has no health problems, so I'm not going to spaz on the fluoride issue too much. I hate being involuntarily drugged on fluoride, don't get me wrong, but RO filters seem like overkill for tap water. True they didn't have all this Big Pharma crap most of my Dad's life, but to me the path of least resistance (and most common sense) is what I'm doing, a simple carbon filter.

If you eat less salt you don't need as much water. If you drink too much water make sure you eat enough salt. Last year my aunt almost died from hyponatremia (not enough salt).

Question: Under which president was fluoride first added to tap water?

 
 
 
Posted On May 08, 2007
I had the opportunity to talk to the owner of a bottled water company, and he shared a piece of information that stunned me.  According to him, the law requires any bottled water that is sold in this country to go through  reverse osmosis.  If that is true, it certainly levels the playing field.  And factoring in all the environmental, transportation and other concerns, there has got to be a better way than individual bottles - almost any alternative is better than individual bottles.

 
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Posted On May 09, 2007
sunrae - we've got to get to the bottom of this.  Can you get more info - or is it too late?  I am really pissed if all those bottles are RO'ed, and we're paying for the label.  THIS MUST BE INVESTIGATED BY MERCOLA'S BEST INVESTIGATOR!  Well why should they listen to me but I hope they do.. . Talk about a scam!  I could give a dead bee what the pH is (come on people - the pH of water is different from all kinds of natural sources humans and animals drink from - they're not scared), or chemical potential, or freakin' memories it has - I WANT MY MINERALS!  THEY'RE MINE!


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Posted On May 10, 2007
Where is this ridiculous misinformation coming from?  Various european sparkling waters contain > 1500 ppm of minerals...if they went through an RO process they would stop sparkling and stop tasting "hard" which some people prefer.  This guy was either a buffoon and idiot or he was pulling your leg.  VERY LITTLE bottled water is actually RO treated.  Dasani & the pepsi eqivalent are the only major ones.  Most name brand (Dannon & "Crystal Springs" or "Poland Spring") bottled water is not.  Funnily some generic bottle waters are just the municipal water from some other part of the country.
About 10 years ago when bottled waters started catching on in the US, I had a hilarious call-in to a Cust. Serv. rep. for the water sold in my cafeteria.  Mind you Euro waters have listed PPMs on the label for 20 years!  I asked this person what its mineral content was. She started rattling off a list of cations and anions.  I shouted OF COURSE it CONTAINS those, HOW MUCH of each does it contain.  So clueless.




 
 
 
Posted On Apr 26, 2007
So the underlying story is that we are not cool? We are mostly made up of water!

 
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Posted On Apr 26, 2007
cyan - IN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, dR. MERCOLLA RECENTLY SAID HE WAS GOING TO START ADDING HIMALAYAN SALT TO HIS WATER TO REPLACE THE MINERALS. (tHE SALT IS AVAILABLE ON HIS SITE. ) yOU USE ONE TEASPOON PER GALLON.


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Posted On Apr 26, 2007
and we are the bottle so we are mostly made up of bottled water

 
 
 
Posted On May 09, 2007
A few years back, our municipal water company was considering the treatment of run-off water with an industrial reverse osmosis system.  As some point, during due diligence, they rejected the ro system because the water discharged from that system would have been so clean and so devoid of minerals, that it would have destroyed the concrete run-off channels by leaching minerals and other material from the concrete.

Wonder what ro water might be doing to our "personal channel to the ocean?"

 
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