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Cancer Vaccine Not Safe

New information about the human papillomavirus (HPV) cervical cancer vaccine Gardasil has raised serious questions about its effectiveness.

Although Gardasil blocked almost 100 percent of infections by two strains of HPV, it only reduced the incidence of cervical cancer precursors by 17 percent.

One possible reason is that many of the women examined to obtain this information had already been exposed to the virus. But Gardasil may also, by blocking only specific strains, allow other varieties of HPV to flourish.

The vaccine's manufacturer, Merck, has said that the vaccine reduces the number of pre-cancerous lesions caused by HPV. But some have pointed out that Merck's study was not long enough to demonstrate the vaccine's effectiveness; it only lasted three years, although it was examining a disease that can take decades to develop.

New England Journal of Medicine, Vol. 356, No. 19, May 10, 2007: 1991-1993 (Free Full-Text Article)

Sun-Sentinel.com May 10, 2007


Dr. Mercola's Comment:

I suspect this information may prompt some state legislatures to reconsider their positions on the mandatory human papillomavirus (HPV) vaccine requirements now being considered in many states all over the United States.

These findings that question the need for young girls to be vaccinated for HPV with Gardasil certainly aren't surprising to me. Drug treatments often cause more problems than they solve, and it now appears like blocking certain HPV strains may open the door to newer, more virulent strains once considered to be "minor" factors, negating any health benefit the vaccine may offer.

All this attention paid to a faulty and, perhaps, very dangerous vaccine is all the more amazing when you consider that the immune systems of most women are strong enough to beat these infections on their own. A New England Journal of Medicine study also found that the use of condoms reduces the incidence of HPV by 70 percent.

In addition to wise sexual practices, women can protect themselves from HPV by boosting their immune systems naturally by:

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Posted On May 10, 2007

It still fascinates me how "they" always focus on the symptom of a bigger problem. So "they" see HPV as a problem, so "they" develop something in order to wipe it out? Why not work backwards and try to figure out where it is coming from?From all my reading and research, I have to somewhat disagree with the findings in articles supporting that cervical cancer is caused by just HPV.

"Women are much more likely to get cervical cancer if they have been on the pill." Dr. Lee

A pap smear tests form cancerous or precancerous cells on the cervix. Therer are 5 classes: 1) normal 2) inflammation or irritation 3) cervical dysplasia 4)some pre or cancerous cells 5) invasive cancer. The problem with this test according to Dr. Lee is that there are a lot of false-positive's, giving a more serious rating than there already is. According to Dr. Lee, positive findings in a pap smear happen from: traumatic sex, tampons, condoms, smoking, douches and spermicides on condoms. As well, progesterone deficiency can also contribute to cervical dysplasia secondary to making the cervix more susceptible to inflammation and irritation (secondary to the women being estrogen dominant).

So most MD's look at cervical dysplasia as the byproduct from HPV. In my opinion from treating so many women that are estrogen dominant, have low progesterone levels, smoke, have sex, use condoms, etc, what do you think the cause might be? I am not saying these are the only reasons, but why not consider them before taking a vaccine?

"We know that the use of oral contraceptives increases the risk of cervical dysplasia by AT LEAST 50% and the risk of cervical cancer by AT LEAST 25%." Dr. Lee


 
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Posted On May 10, 2007
So according to your logic Katybr55 to prevent the common cold or the flu we should really address the cause like you suggest and therefore stop breathing since that is the way these are transmitted?


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Posted On May 11, 2007
Katy B. - and it goes further.  Kids having sex means promiscuity and self-indulgence without responsibility.  This is carried into married life, if they even get married.  Sex for adventure instead of love and procreation means more sexual "affairs".  Affairs devastate children and destroy families.  Devastated kids grow up and become depressed and emotionally wrecked adults, who want to get it together but only have their parents and society for role models.  It spells d-o-o-m for many.  They even grow to hate and resent those whose have good families and traditions.

Witch Doctor says: It is not nice to make a fool of Mother Tradition.


JoyWAHM
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Posted On May 26, 2007
I'm not sure you quite understand KatyB.

The fact is promiscuity causes all sorts of std's and other problems. People who wait until marriage for sex and are faithful during marriage do not get std's and the like. That's a fact. The best way to help young women to avoid the HPV virus is to teach them abstinance until marriage. And yes, perhaps a few will have sex anyway, but today it is so accepted and allowed and convenient that it is a rare thing for a youth to remain a virgin until marriage. What are we teaching our next generation. They are not learning responsibility and self-mastery. They are learning the opposite and the  schools encourage it. Not only that but we expect them to be promiscuous (sp), children often act according to those expectations (not the expectations you lecture them about, the ones they can discern you have of them and that they see in your example).
I remained virtuous before marriage and do not regret it at all. My marriage is the better for it and my example is set for my children, and I don't have to worry about many diseases. How many people who abstain from premarital sex grow up and regret that-yet I know of many who don't abstain in their youth who wish they had but you can't undo that.

Joyce

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Posted On May 27, 2007
Hi Josh

Can you tell me who Dr Lee is and where you got these specific facts on cervical cancer and the pill?

Cheers


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Posted On Jun 26, 2007
Vaccines scare me I don't vaccinate my kids after an adverse reaction and feel it is the right decision. I am dealing with cervical cancer right now. I just want to address Joyce who remained a vrigin and was in a long term marriage. My only partner was my husband I married at 19. I felt like Joyce (I know you will think not me) that I was safe from std's after 22 years of marriage and 4 children I discovered my husband was having an affair and not protecting me. I never even had a mildly abnormal pap in my life. My first pap after the discovery of the affair was high grade squamous. It turned out my husband's affair partner had cervical cancer and is undergoing treatment. So you are not safe!

 
 
 
Posted On May 10, 2007
Why not vaccinate men against HPV, as they are the ones who infect women? Why are women always the victims? First the deadly "Pill," then potentially harmful "preventative medicine" procedures like pap smears and mammograms! Like these procedures, this vaccine is purely sexist.
 
No doctor ever told me pap smears were a test for an STD! They were giving them to me every year despite the fact that I plainly told them I was not sexually active. This is rape. The reason doctors don't communicate? Bad for business. I pray all their abusive procedures haven't damaged me permanently. I will never fall for "preventative medicine" again.

 
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Posted On May 10, 2007
Just want to add: Like terrorists, "modern medicine's" primary weapon is fear. 


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Posted On May 11, 2007
saynotoquacks,I have herd about that here in Texas. they were trying to make it mandatory for both boys and girls in middle schools.


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Posted On May 13, 2007
Why is a pap smear a problem? I can understand your objection to a mammogram, which exposes one to radiation and has yet to be proven to lower the risk of death from breast cancer, but a Pap smear isn't dangerous and clearly reduces one's risk of dying from cervical cancer by finding it sooner, increasing the effectiveness of treatment. 

I've worked in oncology - I want to know EARLY in the disease process if I have cancer, BEFORE it can spread and kill me - horribly, painfully, and often SLOWLY. I've SEEN what happens when people don't take simple precautions for early detection, especially in the case of cervical and colon cancers and malignant melanoma, and I've seen what happens to people who opt for so-called "natural" cancer treatments. I know all about people who claim to be cured of cancer by all sorts of "alternative" treatments, but I have yet to actually meet one face to face. I do, however, personally know several long-time cancer survivors who opted for aggressive traditional western cancer treatment. I also know a few cancer survivors who opted for prayer when diagnosed with highly deadly forms of cancer that rarely, if ever, respond to ANY kind of treatment.

Men, by the way, have their own undignified health problems and tests, such as prostate exams. We women don't have a lock on embarrassing and uncomfortable medical tests by any stretch of the imagination. 

  


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Posted On May 15, 2007
mimi2seven, I'm sure it's logical for a women engaged in unprotected sexual activity to get a pap smear. But no doctor ever told me this virus was sexually transmitted. Why should a young woman who does not engage in sex ever get a pap smear? Doctors led me to believe that this virus can grow spontaneously in any woman, whether she has sex or not. They never told me it was an STD. That is what makes me angry. It was completely useless for me, and they KNEW it, but I was insured.


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Posted On Jun 01, 2007
Mimi please just do a simple search on mercola.com to understand why pap smears could be a problem..

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2000/12/03/pap-smears.aspx


http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2000/12/31/pap-smear-part-one.aspx

Obviously, with you being here, you know much of what you have learned about treating health is completely wrong, so search out the truth and keep posting here so we can discuss these issues.  

 
 
 
Posted On May 10, 2007
M E R C K = MOSTLY EVIL RESEARCHERS, CROOKS & KAFKAESQUERS

GUARDASIL = Gaining Unearned America Regulatory Distribution Accelerating Sickness Insidiously Lobbied-for

Anyone remember Merck's False & Deceptive Announcement, A Few Months Back, That They Would Back Off On Lobbying For Legislation In Each State To Make This Vaccine Program Mandatory For School Age Girls...? 

Well, THEY LIED, And Are Still Lobbying Hard For Guardasil's Use.

A Big 'Hell-O' To The Merck Lawyers, Or Spies, Who Daily Read Vital Votes Also!

Fortunately, Thanks To My Fellow Mercolians, and the so-called mainstream print (and some electronic) media picking up on this story, the Governor of Texas, Rich Perry was OUTED, along with his former Chief of Staff going to work for MERCK, and this legislation was stopped in Texas, after the rest of the politicians knew they have a buzz saw coming for each of them in next election, if the law was maintained.

By the way, what group of supposed "fair and balanced" journalists on a national weekend news review show circuit is saying the Merck vaccine is still a good idea?  Yep, you guest it; FOX NEWS!

The 'fair & balanced' network for Big Pharma commercial sponsors, and pro dangerous/expense Nuclear Energy trying to crawl back out of the Three Mile Island and Chernobyl grave (with a half life equal to their still uncontrolled reactor waste and no where safe to put it to protect you or keep it out of Terrorists hands) is still out their probing to see where they can HARM YOUR HEALTH NEXT, FOR THEIR PROFIT!

PHARMA = Primarily Harming All Reactive Models & Americans


 
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Posted On May 11, 2007
Russ, they were trying to give it to both boys and girls. you should have seen the anger in the parents, Rick Perry and his cronies are doing the old duck and cover on this one!


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Posted On May 14, 2007
 Good on you for your comment! I am a member of an online cancer support group in Australia, called friends with cancer.
 We are horrified here at what is about to commence  in all our public schools  nationwide, after a short trial, currently running in schools in the state of Victoria... the introduction of vaccination against HPV. 
Every day our government runs half page ads. in our major newspapers funded by the makers of Gardasil, announcing "The Good News About Cancer",  with a photo of a group of schoolgirls, and the ad. signing off by stating " help protect your child from cervical cancer, sign the consent form".  There has been no consultation whatsoever, and we have gone along in our apathetic way like sheep to the slaughter, believing what is fed to us. How about getting back to basics, like circumscision for a start, did you know hospitals will not offer it now, you have to hunt around for someone who believes in it!!
I say boycot  this vaccination,speak up, and fathers, don't submit your daughters to it, they may not be able to bear children in years to come with this concoction in their bodies, it hasn't even been tested yet!!!!
cheers, Nathan


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Posted On May 26, 2007
You are a very talented man for coming up with those reverse "anagrams"!

 
 
 
Posted On May 26, 2007
From mimi2seven: "I know all about people who claim to be cured of cancer by all sorts of "alternative" treatments, but I have yet to actually meet one face to face."

I don't doubt that you haven't met these people. Why, if you work in oncology, would they be coming to you? And what about all the people who die from traditional cancer treatments? How many times have you heard "they fought valiantly against their cancer" and then it turns out they fought with chemo, radiation, etc.?

My first question is always "How is it they these people go to these "best" places to treat cancer--and they die? There was a 6 yr-old boy in our neighborhood whose parents took him from CT to North Carolina (Duke) for the "best" treatment. He died--far away from home and his mom and brothers. Too sad. I know what I'll do if cancer strikes here--run fast and far from the "best." They don't know what they're doing.

 
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Posted On May 27, 2007
Rubynellie - I'd be running right with you.  More should be running if they hear those terrible words of cancer confirmation.........

Dear mimi2seven - I agree with Rubynellie - working in traditional onocology will not find those who are successfully treated with alternative methods............AND TRULY HOW OFTEN DO FOLKS GET BETTER?  Maybe short term, but never for long term.......it comes back!

I have a 6 year dance student who last summer spent TWO MONTHS OF COMPETE AGONY in the hospital (she was diagnosed with Crohn's Disease in June) enduring colonoscopies, tests and drugs that made her so much more sick.   She was one step away from a colostomy!  Her parents finally started listening to my ranting and raving about how these procdedures would never stop - it would be a constant for the rest of her life - is that what they wanted?  Obviously not!  Oh - by the way,  her traditional pediatrician had her on a wheat diet (to put some meat on this slightly built child) and when the wheat diet wasn't working, he said "add chocolate milk".............duh..............gluten and caseim (strongest wood glue in the world) YEAH THAT SHOULD DO THE TRICK!   TRICK IT DID - SHE WAS PLUGGED FROM HER THROAT TO HER BOTTOM.

The alternative method - fresh organic food, and no dairy or animal products............WITHIN TWO DAYS, she was getting better, within a week she was noticably feeling much better!.........and now almost a year later - this child is thriving!  Great skin color (which was ashen last July) and vitality - her body is being nourished by foods not conventional procedures and drugs.

 
 
 
Posted On May 26, 2007
I wouldn't get this vaccine, nor would I urge any of my daughters to get it, or their daughters.  My oldest grand-daughter was given the hepatitis shot.  I asked my daughter "when did Madeline start having sex?" [madeline was a few years old].  My daughter said "the pediatrician said it was a good idea"

I asked her if the pediactrician was willing to guarantee no future effects from the vaccine, and, if he wasn't, would he be willing to help with the cost of any said future effects.    PEOPLE SWALLOW THIS STUFF because it comes from doctors. 

I once asked a physician if she could test my Vitamin D levels...I thought her head was going to spin around and fire/smoke come out of her ears.  She all but called me stupid.  She said there were rarely shortages in America today; and that I could get plenty of Vitamin D from the "fortified foods" - I explained to her that I didn't eat "fortified foods" - and she said "well your insurance won't pay for it unless you have some type of illness" "We just don't do that any more, it isn't necessary" - Needless to say, I will never visit her office again.  The fact is, it all boils down to money and pressure to find a "cure" - Is there even a cure?  I mean, virus change all the time, they mutate. - Isn't seeking a better health regimine, along with safer lifestyle [don't sleep with every tom dick and harry], plenty of sleep and fresh water, a life of faith [whatever yours is?] etc..etc.? 

I just wonder these days.  I have NO faith in doctors for much else than a diagnose.  That's pretty sad.

 
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Posted On May 26, 2007
Recently I was diagnosed with heavy metal poisoning of which my mercury levels were off the charts.  My doctor and I figured it was probably the 5 "silver" fillings in my teeth.  I have a whole handful of medical ailments that all can be traced back to the mercury poisoning.  One of which if polycystic ovary "disease" in which I develop small cysts on my ovaries after ovulating. 

On a recent visit to a new OB/GYN, I informed her of my cysts that my primary doctor found and told her it was likely due to the mercury poisoning.  She made the strangest face and was puzzled how I knew I had mercury poisoning.  I told her because my doctor tested me for heavy metals because he suspected that most of my ailments were caused by one or more of these poisonings.  It was like I told her I was born with 3 heads or something like that.  Then she asked about the relationship between mercury poisoning and the cysts and commented that it's highly unlikely because polycystic ovary disease was a very common thing among women.  I told her "well, isn't the fact that we are all walking around with "silver" fillings a common occurrence?: She shook her head and tossed me a look like I was crazy and almost immediately dismissed me from her office.  Oh and when I was mentioning to her that I wanted to bring my 17 year old daughter in for her first checkup, she shoved paperwork about the HPV vaccine down my throat at the speed of light. 

Unbelievable!


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Posted On May 26, 2007
Kfarias, I could not agree more, these doctors around here would never test for vitamin D. They only care about keeping track if you are vaccinated, etc. They are just state agents in white coats  monitoring your compliance so they can use information against you. If you don't do synthetic toxic drugs or vaccines then there is no point of ever seeing a doctor. I'd rather die of a heart attack then even go to the emergency room. Last time I did that, I was accused of doing cocaine because I had a heart problem, they did not believe me and drug tested me behind my back and then asked me if I was up to date with vaccination. Unless your rich and can pay for natural doctors forget it: I will trust in God only.


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Posted On May 27, 2007
kfarias - great post!

And I'm sorry to disagree with some of the posters here, but I have not been to the doctor's  in 17 years (well chiropractor a couple of times for "back-out-of-whack".)   I haven't been sick since we changed the foods we eat.........and..........will never have a mammogram or pap smear.  I do not agree with any invasive medical procedures except fixing injuries.  And God Bless the doctors who do those repairs :)

 
 
 
 
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